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Conservative government in UK announces sugar tax on soft drinks industry

Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:29 pm
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:29 pm
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The tax will come into force in two year's time in order to give companies time to change the ingredients of their products.

The measure will raise an estimated £520million a year, and will be spent on doubling funding for sport in primary schools. Secondary schools will meanwhile be encouraged to offer more sport as part of longer school days.

Pure fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be excluded, as well as small producers.
As he announced the measure, Mr Osborne cited the fact that 5-year-old children are consuming their bodyweight in sugar every year, and experts predict that within a generation more than half of all boys and 70 per cent of girls could be overweight or obese.

He said: “I am not prepared to look back at my time here in this Parliament, doing this job and say to my children's generation 'I'm sorry. We knew there was a problem with sugary drinks. We knew it caused disease. But we ducked the difficult decisions and we did nothing'.”

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:30 pm to
we need that shite here

...but we do the opposite
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:31 pm to
These drinks are a problem but you need to make changes within the industry itself.
Posted by FlagLake
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:32 pm to
Yea it is strictly sugary drinks fault. Every other food loaded with high fructose corn syrup and sugar has nothing to do with it. Might as well tax video game systems and cell phones while we are at it being those make kids fat too.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:32 pm to
More nanny state bullshite. Anyone supporting this tax thinks people should be penalized by the government for not living their life as you see fit. This is basically a sin tax.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:34 pm to
There are too many problems to address at once, so we should address none of them? Interesting logic.

Also everyone else ends up paying when these people get diabetes and cancer and heart disease.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:35 pm to
This is not a problem for the government to address. Get the frick out of people's lives, but also stop paying for their healthcare.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33937 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:36 pm to
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Yea it is strictly sugary drinks fault. Every other food loaded with high fructose corn syrup and sugar has nothing to do with it. Might as well tax video game systems and cell phones while we are at it being those make kids fat too.


Read what I posted. They are a not the. That's why I said the industry needs to make a change.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:37 pm to
Fair enough. As long as you think hospitals are really going to institute a policy where they turn away emergency room patients over a certain BMI or whatever if they can't pay. I honestly don't have a problem with that; same with drug use.

But no first world country will ever do that
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:39 pm to
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As long as you think hospitals are really going to institute a policy where they turn away emergency room patients over a certain BMI or whatever if they can't pay. I honestly don't have a problem with that; same with drug use.


I think they should absolutely turn away people who cannot pay unless it is a privately funded charity hospital. I don't understand being forced to take on customers. Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33937 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:40 pm to
This definitely is a damned if you do and damned if you don't. Of course we shouldn't be cleaning up everyone's mess because they made bad choices. Hell, it's against nature imo. The fact of the matter is that we can save millions, if not billions, by dissuading people from drinking these every damn day. I'm not happy about it but we are hurting a lot of others if we don't address this in some form or fashion.


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Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.


Agreed. Back to what I said before, this is the form natural selection should take now. We just won't let that happen though.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 6:41 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:40 pm to
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Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.


This kind of reasoning is ridiculous, imo.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:41 pm to
i mean we literally do the opposite of tax this stuff. we subsidize sugar in all sorts of ways and that has led to a massive increase in the amount in our food system. the US wouldn't even have to tax sugar; it could just remove the subsidies and make the market price "real" and it would do wonders
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:42 pm to
Its the UK, the main reason they are doing that is to protect the tea companies.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:43 pm to
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This kind of reasoning is ridiculous, imo.


Explain? What right do you have to force doctors to provide a service to you? Do you also have the right to force a mechanic to provide service to you? A gardener? Healthcare is no different. You and you alone are responsible for you own life. No one else on earth owes you or anyone a damn thing.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33937 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:48 pm to
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i mean we literally do the opposite of tax this stuff. we subsidize sugar in all sorts of ways and that has led to a massive increase in the amount in our food system. the US wouldn't even have to tax sugar; it could just remove the subsidies and make the market price "real" and it would do wonders



No disagreement with you there.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14523 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:57 pm to
I want to see more cane sugar and less high fructose corn syrup used in products. It may be a placebo effect but cane sugar Cokes taste better than regular Cokes. Plus that would provide a lot of money to this state. The subsidies seem to almost encourage cane farmers to not sell their product though.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:05 pm to
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More nanny state bullshite. Anyone supporting this tax thinks people should be penalized by the government for not living their life as you see fit. This is basically a sin tax.

This is much like open borders. That stance works as long as I'm not paying for your welfare.

Not your welfare in particular, but society's in general.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:06 pm to
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Pure fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be excluded,


Because neither of these contains a lot of sugar
Posted by BuddyLAM
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
2633 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:07 pm to
Good. Maybe less far people and more kids in sports. WIN-WIN
I bet they like winners like Donald J. Trump because the UK is winning rn
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