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Conservative government in UK announces sugar tax on soft drinks industry
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:29 pm
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The tax will come into force in two year's time in order to give companies time to change the ingredients of their products.
The measure will raise an estimated £520million a year, and will be spent on doubling funding for sport in primary schools. Secondary schools will meanwhile be encouraged to offer more sport as part of longer school days.
Pure fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be excluded, as well as small producers.
As he announced the measure, Mr Osborne cited the fact that 5-year-old children are consuming their bodyweight in sugar every year, and experts predict that within a generation more than half of all boys and 70 per cent of girls could be overweight or obese.
He said: “I am not prepared to look back at my time here in this Parliament, doing this job and say to my children's generation 'I'm sorry. We knew there was a problem with sugary drinks. We knew it caused disease. But we ducked the difficult decisions and we did nothing'.”
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:30 pm to RedRifle
we need that shite here
...but we do the opposite
...but we do the opposite
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:31 pm to RedRifle
These drinks are a problem but you need to make changes within the industry itself.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:32 pm to RedRifle
Yea it is strictly sugary drinks fault. Every other food loaded with high fructose corn syrup and sugar has nothing to do with it. Might as well tax video game systems and cell phones while we are at it being those make kids fat too.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:32 pm to RedRifle
More nanny state bullshite. Anyone supporting this tax thinks people should be penalized by the government for not living their life as you see fit. This is basically a sin tax.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:34 pm to FlagLake
There are too many problems to address at once, so we should address none of them? Interesting logic.
Also everyone else ends up paying when these people get diabetes and cancer and heart disease.
Also everyone else ends up paying when these people get diabetes and cancer and heart disease.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:35 pm to tigerfan88
This is not a problem for the government to address. Get the frick out of people's lives, but also stop paying for their healthcare.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:36 pm to FlagLake
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Yea it is strictly sugary drinks fault. Every other food loaded with high fructose corn syrup and sugar has nothing to do with it. Might as well tax video game systems and cell phones while we are at it being those make kids fat too.
Read what I posted. They are a not the. That's why I said the industry needs to make a change.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:37 pm to LeonPhelps
Fair enough. As long as you think hospitals are really going to institute a policy where they turn away emergency room patients over a certain BMI or whatever if they can't pay. I honestly don't have a problem with that; same with drug use.
But no first world country will ever do that
But no first world country will ever do that
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:39 pm to tigerfan88
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As long as you think hospitals are really going to institute a policy where they turn away emergency room patients over a certain BMI or whatever if they can't pay. I honestly don't have a problem with that; same with drug use.
I think they should absolutely turn away people who cannot pay unless it is a privately funded charity hospital. I don't understand being forced to take on customers. Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:40 pm to tigerfan88
This definitely is a damned if you do and damned if you don't. Of course we shouldn't be cleaning up everyone's mess because they made bad choices. Hell, it's against nature imo. The fact of the matter is that we can save millions, if not billions, by dissuading people from drinking these every damn day. I'm not happy about it but we are hurting a lot of others if we don't address this in some form or fashion.
Agreed. Back to what I said before, this is the form natural selection should take now. We just won't let that happen though.
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Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.
Agreed. Back to what I said before, this is the form natural selection should take now. We just won't let that happen though.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:40 pm to LeonPhelps
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Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.
This kind of reasoning is ridiculous, imo.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:41 pm to jmarto1
i mean we literally do the opposite of tax this stuff. we subsidize sugar in all sorts of ways and that has led to a massive increase in the amount in our food system. the US wouldn't even have to tax sugar; it could just remove the subsidies and make the market price "real" and it would do wonders
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:42 pm to RedRifle
Its the UK, the main reason they are doing that is to protect the tea companies.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:43 pm to SabiDojo
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This kind of reasoning is ridiculous, imo.
Explain? What right do you have to force doctors to provide a service to you? Do you also have the right to force a mechanic to provide service to you? A gardener? Healthcare is no different. You and you alone are responsible for you own life. No one else on earth owes you or anyone a damn thing.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean we literally do the opposite of tax this stuff. we subsidize sugar in all sorts of ways and that has led to a massive increase in the amount in our food system. the US wouldn't even have to tax sugar; it could just remove the subsidies and make the market price "real" and it would do wonders
No disagreement with you there.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:57 pm to RedRifle
I want to see more cane sugar and less high fructose corn syrup used in products. It may be a placebo effect but cane sugar Cokes taste better than regular Cokes. Plus that would provide a lot of money to this state. The subsidies seem to almost encourage cane farmers to not sell their product though.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:05 pm to LeonPhelps
quote:This is much like open borders. That stance works as long as I'm not paying for your welfare.
More nanny state bullshite. Anyone supporting this tax thinks people should be penalized by the government for not living their life as you see fit. This is basically a sin tax.
Not your welfare in particular, but society's in general.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:06 pm to RedRifle
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Pure fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be excluded,
Because neither of these contains a lot of sugar
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:07 pm to RedRifle
Good. Maybe less far people and more kids in sports. WIN-WIN
I bet they like winners like Donald J. Trump because the UK is winning rn
I bet they like winners like Donald J. Trump because the UK is winning rn
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