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Connecticut gun controls estimated to have cut fatal shootings by 40%
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:25 am
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Studying the impact of gun control laws in the US is notoriously challenging. A variety of demographic factors influence the prevalence of lethal violence, and it's difficult to find states that share all these factors and differ in terms of gun laws. In addition, laws get enacted at times when the nation as a whole may be experiencing changes in the rate of crimes, violent and otherwise.
These issues make it difficult, but not impossible. Last year, Daniel Webster of Johns Hopkins' Bloomberg School of Public Health performed an analysis that tracked what happened before and after a single state (Missouri, in this case) loosened its gun control laws. That work suggested that killings using firearms increased by 25 percent after the law was passed. Now, Webster is back as part of a team that did essentially a converse study: what happens after a state significantly tightens its limits on gun sales? In this analysis, the rate of gun homicides dropped by 40 percent.
The state in question is Connecticut. In 1995, Connecticut tightened its laws for handgun purchases. It raised the age requirement from 18 to 21, thus cutting off part of an age group that's statistically prone to violence. It also required purchasers to apply for a permit at their local police station, which would perform a more extensive background check. Finally, the permits would not be approved without proof of attendance of an eight-hour safety course.
Added background checks, higher age limits, and safety course appear to add up.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 11:35 am
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:27 am to Street Hawk
Did it cut fatal occurrences all together or just the shootings?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:27 am to Street Hawk
I have little problem with background checks and the safety course.
Age and waiting periods are a farce.
Age and waiting periods are a farce.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:27 am to Street Hawk
So what does a guy in the army do from Connecticut when he's 18-20 in the Middle East? Use a knife?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:30 am to Street Hawk
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Overall, the authors estimate that there were nearly 300 fewer firearm homicides in Connecticut between 1996 and 2005 compared to what would have occurred otherwise. That's a drop of 40 percent.
Why did the stop counting 10 years ago? What's the data from the past ten years(Did Sandy Hook screw the #s up?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:33 am to TigerintheNO
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the authors estimate
So they basically made up this "statistic"
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:36 am to Street Hawk
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Connecticut gun controls estimated to have cut fatal shootings by 40%
Holy frick that's so bad I'm embarrassed for them that they put it out.
But hey. Just for giggles, take a gander at the United States violent crime rate since 1995. I mean for frick's sake. Them claiming gun control in THEIR state caused a drop in something that dropped EVERYWHERE is retarded. But, the idiots will lap it up.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:37 am to MikeBRLA
quote:It's not so much made up as it is a glorious and willful false conclusion of cause.
So they basically made up this "statistic"
Soon as I saw "since 1995" I knew what the deal was.
shite, they might as well say that the eliminate of Blockbuster video drove violent crime rates down. I mean, Blockbuster is gone and rates are down!!!!!
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:39 am to Drew Orleans
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Did it cut fatal occurrences all together or just the shootings?
From the article:
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For homicides from all causes other than guns, the synthetic state tracked Connecticut both before and after the passage of the 1995 gun control law. A few years after the implementation of implementation of the law in late 1995, however, firearm homicide rates diverged, with Connecticut's continuing to drop along a previous trend, while the synthetic states (like the national average) saw this rate stabilize.
Overall, the authors estimate that there were nearly 300 fewer firearm homicides in Connecticut between 1996 and 2005 compared to what would have occurred otherwise. That's a drop of 40 percent.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:40 am to Street Hawk
Chicago does not agree with this "statistic"
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:44 am to meeple
For frick's sake people. Connecticut's "cut" is EXACTLY in line with the drop in violent crime nationwide.
If their "gun control" had such an awesome effect, they should've been BETTER than the national drop.
This OP is statistical BS.
If their "gun control" had such an awesome effect, they should've been BETTER than the national drop.
This OP is statistical BS.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:45 am to ShortyRob
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ShortyRob
Your posts are cringe worthy.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:47 am to ShortyRob
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For frick's sake people. Connecticut's "cut" is EXACTLY in line with the drop in violent crime nationwide.
You are saying that gun homicides dropped by 40% in the US in that same period?
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:47 am to Street Hawk
I have handguns, shotguns, bolt guns, and a short barreled AR in 300 Blackout, and 3 suppressors. frick with me
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:49 am to Street Hawk
Sterile Conjecture
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:49 am to TheOcean
quote:So, you're not even going to read the link I provided?
Your posts are cringe worthy.
Nah.
Let's just believe the hokum unchallenged despite the fact that it was so easily checked.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:50 am to TheOcean
Didn't Florida loosen its gun restrictions about 20-25 years ago and see a drop in crime as well?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:51 am to Street Hawk
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It raised the age requirement from 18 to 21, thus cutting off part of an age group that's statistically prone to violence
And forcing an entire age group to essentially act as adults - doing all the same things the rest of us do, living on their own and doing all sorts of grown up things - without having the ability to defend themselves! Awesome!
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:52 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Didn't Florida loosen its gun restrictions about 20-25 years ago and see a drop in crime as well?
Exactly. EVERY state has experienced a drop regardless of gun law changes.
Anyone saying their reduction in gun laws definitely caused the drop and anyone saying increase in their gun laws definitely cause the drop are wholly full of shite.
And, statistically speaking, if something drops EVERYWHERE, then you can't claim the ENTIRE drop in your particular location as caused by your policies.
But hey. I get it. People suck at even evaluating stats, much less doing them.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:58 am to ShortyRob
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ShortyRob
Rob, you seemed to have glossed over my question.
quote:
You are saying that gun homicides dropped by 40% in the US in that same period?
You said that gun restriction had nothing to do with this stat, so that must mean gun homicides dropped by this rate nation wide.
I am not taking the side of gun control or outlawing them, but facts are facts in this case.
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