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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:29 pm to bott18240
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Cop was on out of his car six seconds before he shot. Lots of other officers there, how can you evaluate the situation so quick? And the first shot was a head shot, can't just shoot the leg or something?
It's the guys arriving on the scene as backup that you have to be wary of. Those guys unfortunately don't have the complete picture of the situation like the initial officers on the scene. A guy that is coming on the scene with adrenaline pumping but without complete situational awareness is always more dangerous in my opinion.
About 10 years ago a friend I was riding with got pulled over on a routine traffic stop. I can't recall what led up to it, but my friend allowed him to search the car. Anyway, we are standing there while the cop searched the car and my friend has his hands around his neck or head just stretching. Out of nowhere a motorcycle cop rolls up on us with his gun drawn telling us to put our goddamn hands on the frickin hood. Scared the shite out of both of us and the other cop. He was yelling at him "it's cool. It's cool. It's just a traffic stop! Put the gun down". When shite finally calmed down, we figured out that he had been riding by when he saw my friend with his hands on his head, and reacted.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:29 pm to lsu480
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Justified. The guy was high on PCP and holding a knife and as anyone can tell you that if someone is closer than 20 feet from you with a knife they can reach you before you have the chance to shoot them. Don't wanna get shot? Don't smoke PCP and frick with cops while holding a knife. Good riddance.
21 feet is the time it takes (1.5 seconds) for an attacker to close the distance. it takes slightly more than 1.5 seconds for a trained individual to assess a threat, draw, and fire. that's why the "21 feet" number exists. it doesn't apply to an officer with his weapon drawn and raised. that reaction time goes to 0.5 seconds or less
plus, the cop put himself into that magical zone.. the attacker trying to distance himself from the cop.
anyone but a retard could see the cop is the aggressor
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to bmy
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to TheOcean
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Bootlickers are in full force. Even when we have a cop in the thread saying the shooting wasn't justified. I'm shocked
I am not a bootlicker. I've criticized plenty of officers on this board.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to lsu480
Looked pretty clear to me the kid was walking away from the cops. But I guess that = an immediate threat
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to undecided
Roger that
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to John88
Multiple blue lights, innocent victim. Someone complained about his gait as a walker. Legit
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:30 pm to SabiDojo
Calm down, brah. Aint calling you a bootlicker
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:31 pm to John88
Oops wrong thread
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:31 pm to bmy
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that's why the "21 feet" number exists. it doesn't apply to an officer with his weapon drawn and raised. that reaction time goes to 0.5 seconds or less
Not saying you're incorrect, but can you link something that supports this?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:31 pm to SabiDojo
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If he wasn't on PCP then welp he's screwed
Synthetic marijuana or just plain mentally ill are worse than PCP. I have no idea, but walking down the middle of the highway with half the precint pursuing you leads me to believe it was one or the other (drugs/mental issues). Still doesn't justify the deadly force, he wasn't alone and had enough room to keep from being harmed by the perp. If the guy had engaged a full on rush toward him that would be a different story, he could have used deadly force on the 2nd step with justification w/o a doubt.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:32 pm to bmy
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it doesn't apply to an officer with his weapon drawn and raised. that reaction time goes to 0.5 seconds or less
You are assuming he hits him on the first shot and the first shot actually stops him. You are literally saying he has a ONE SECOND margin of error, I will always side with the cops safety in that situation.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:32 pm to lsu480
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Ya we are bootlickers because we don't care the cops shot a thug running down the streets high on PCP with a knife!
exactly. although i would say you are a stupid bootlicker
how dare he carry a knife
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:33 pm to 91TIGER
Synthetic marijuana or flakka maybe
Mentally ill? Nonlethal means should be effective
Mentally ill? Nonlethal means should be effective
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:33 pm to lsu480
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You are assuming he hits him on the first shot and the first shot actually stops him. You are literally saying he has a ONE SECOND margin of error, I will always side with the cops safety in that situation.
do you have any idea how many rounds an officer can discharge in 1 second?
5-6 shots/second from a trained individual
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:33 pm to Darth_Vader
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Every cop who had anything to do with perpetrating that lie should be fired and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
The video corroborates "that lie."
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:35 pm to bmy
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do you have any idea how many rounds an officer can discharge in 1 second?
With accuracy? Maybe 2.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:35 pm to TheOcean
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Looked pretty clear to me the kid was walking away from the cops.
watch it again? He clearly turns towards the cops with the knife in his hands. Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:35 pm to lsu480
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With accuracy? Maybe 2.
5-6, sorry. we're talking about a human bodyframe inside 20 feet. that's a huge target.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:36 pm
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