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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:47 pm to lsu480
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So 3 in 1.5 seconds means maybe 2 in one second. Thanks for proving my point.
it was 3 in 1.5 for some and less for others for novice shooters. trained individuals can clearly surpass that. this was these peoples first or second time ever shooting a handgun
no wonder you think this was justified. you're certifiably retarded
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:48 pm to bmy
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you think the average cop can accurately fire 5-6 shots in the first second they start shooting at a moving target who is coming at them with a knife you have no clue what you are talking about. with a weapon already aimed..
if he can't, he should be fired
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:48 pm to lsu480
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once he hit the ground he should have stopped unless he thought he saw a gun
If he thought it was a firearm he would have been behind cover/concealment. Even after he's down if he has a firearm take a position away from the line of sight from the perp/weapon.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:49 pm to lsu480
sorry if i'm not okay with shitty standards for LEOs
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:50 pm to 91TIGER
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Yes, even after the first shot that shouldn't have been taken, the THREAT was STOPPED. He had a KNIFE not a FIREARM. There was no way the guy could threaten anyone with the knife while he was on the ground. 15 more shots,
And that's what makes this murder and not a lesser charge like manslaughter. Had the cops shot like once or twice, a manslaughter charge could be at least somewhat plausible. But this cop pumped 15 more shots into a guy who was already down and obviously no threat to anyone. There's only one reason you shoot someone over and over like that, and that's because you're wanting to make sure they are dead. Thus this cop is clearly guilty of murder.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:50 pm to bmy
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that's why the "21 feet" number exists. it doesn't apply to an officer with his weapon drawn and raised. that reaction time goes to 0.5 seconds or less
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Not saying you're incorrect, but can you link something that supports this?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:50 pm to bmy
Bottom line is a bad guy got taken out and we as a society should all be happy, not crying like little babies.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:52 pm to 91TIGER
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even after the first shot that shouldn't have been taken, the THREAT was STOPPED.
Wrong. He flailed around after being shot in the shoulder which is clearly a threat. It's a good thing the officer shot him as he was walking by to see if he had the capability of turning around. It's kind of like when a doctor hits your knee to test your reflexes.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:52 pm to lsu480
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Bottom line is a bad guy got taken out and we as a society should all be happy, not crying like little babies.
True. Two bad guys.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:53 pm to lsu480
I can't wait until they burn the ghettos again. Should make for some good TV.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:53 pm to lsu480
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Bottom line is a bad guy got taken out and we as a society should all be happy, not crying like little babies.
So you're good with letting cops just execute people in the streets because the cops think they're "bad"?
BTW. Did you ever get stoned, drunk, or high when you were 17? Should the cops have shot you dead?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:53 pm to Darth_Vader
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There's only one reason you shoot someone over and over like that, and that's because you're wanting to make sure they are dead.
Or adrenaline.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:53 pm to lsu480
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Bottom line is a bad guy got taken out and we as a society should all be happy, not crying like little babies.
I do agree with this the kid was destined for the Illinois Dept. of Corrections. But, this idiot on the road may encounter someone that wasn't a POS and things might have turned ugly for that law abiding citizen.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:58 pm to lsu480
First Degree is Overbilled for what I just saw. Which is probably done on purpose. I do agree that is shots were premature, but the officer will more than likely be able to justify this shooting based on a few things.
--Teen noncompliant
--Teen has deadly weapon
--Teen was in close proximity of the officer who did not fire (yes, 10 feet is close even though you have a knife.
--Also, many experts, and courts agree, and there is precedent, that if a person is within 21 feet of you with a knife, you are not at a safe distance.
--Teen noncompliant
--Teen has deadly weapon
--Teen was in close proximity of the officer who did not fire (yes, 10 feet is close even though you have a knife.
--Also, many experts, and courts agree, and there is precedent, that if a person is within 21 feet of you with a knife, you are not at a safe distance.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:58 pm to Festus
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There's only one reason you shoot someone over and over like that, and that's because you're wanting to make sure they are dead.
Or adrenaline.
That's your latest excuse for him... He had his "adrenaline" up and that to you is a viable excuse for a cop to shoot a guy on the ground about 15-20 feet away from him 16 times, and that's after he'd already shot him and put him down in the first place. That's what you want us all to believe?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:58 pm to Asgard Device
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Wrong. He flailed around after being shot in the shoulder which is clearly a threat. It's a good thing the officer shot him as he was walking by to see if he had the capability of turning around.
It's AG, so I know you're trolling. However, the officer KNEW it wasn't a firearm b/c he was not behind cover, just out in front of the vehicle and not covered by the engine block. I played for your sake. I guess you caught a fish.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:59 pm to 91TIGER
You're a cop right? Why would everyone else their cover up and lie for this guy? Would you have done the same thing in a similar circumstance?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:00 pm to Nativebullet
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First Degree is Overbilled for what I just saw. Which is probably done on purpose. I do agree that is shots were premature, but the officer will more than likely be able to justify this shooting based on a few things.
--Teen noncompliant
--Teen has deadly weapon
--Teen was in close proximity of the officer who did not fire (yes, 10 feet is close even though you have a knife.
--Also, many experts, and courts agree, and there is precedent, that if a person is within 21 feet of you with a knife, you are not at a safe distance
All this would make sense if the cop had shot the kid once, twice, hell maybe even three times. But he shot him 16 times. That's what makes it murder.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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That's your latest excuse for him...
Excuse??? Early in this thread I said his downfall will be that he shot the guy while he was walking away.
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He had his "adrenaline" up and that to you is a viable excuse for a cop to shoot a guy on the ground about 15-20 feet away from him 16 times, and that's after he'd already shot him and put him down in the first place.
Where did I say anything about excusing this? Please link. I responded to your incorrect statement saying the ONLY reason he could have been shot 16 times is murder. There could in fact be other reasons. Your boy bmy has shown that shots can be fired 6 per second. I am pointed out that adrenaline could last 2.5 seconds.
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That's what you want us all to believe?
I don't give a f*ck what you believe. I think the cop is in trouble and will probably be hit with manslaughter. I was just pointing out how your broad brushing of it's CLEARLY murder is incorrect.
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