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CERN Engineers Have to Identify and Disconnect 9,000 Obsolete Cables

Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:24 am
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:24 am
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CERN, home to the Large Hadron Collider, has grand plans to update the world’s largest particle accelerator complex in the next few years. But engineers have identified a barrier to the upgrade: there’s no space for new cables in the injectors that accelerate particles before they enter the LHC.

In the past, when parts of the accelerators have been upgraded or added to, engineers would often additionally replace the cables that connected them. In the process, they would leave in place the old cables that were no longer in use. Now, a heap of obsolete cables are blocking the way to install new ones needed for the accelerator’s next big upgrade. To make space, CERN engineers have set out to identify and remove the old, unused cables. All 9,000 of them.

Telling apart functioning and out-of-use cables in one of the world’s biggest and most expensive experiments is a high-stakes game. Pull out the wrong cable, and at best you might have lost some data monitoring capabilities. Worst case scenario, you might yank out a crucial safety cable and the accelerator simply won’t work. “That’s why it’s so tricky to complete this operation—because any mistake could start major trouble at the restart of the accelerator,” Sébastien Evrard, the mechanical engineer leading the clean-up project, told me.

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Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21416 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:26 am to
Me and Boudreau could do that in a week.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:26 am to
Someone should get fired over that. Smh.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45805 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:26 am to
Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance...
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8205 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:29 am to
some of my labs at lsu and the synchrotron look like that. There's wires everywhere, but it's an organized madness usually
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:30 am to

I personally think they should have used an identification system for each cable.

Example : Obsolete cables get a piece black duct tape on them. Do this before installing any new cables.

Or they could simply mark all the vital cables from the very beginning.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:30 am to
Call Cox IT. They can send someone out in 6-8 weeks.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:33 am to
Sounds like job security to me.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:33 am to
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6-8 weeks


Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:34 am to
as a network admin, this whole story disgusts me.

proper cable management would have made this so easy

my last rack:

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65680 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:37 am to
Nice rack.

And to Volod, you go fella. Good suggestion.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65680 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:38 am to
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Call Cox IT. They can send someone out in 6-8 weeks.
Between the hours of 8 AM and 5 PM.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:38 am to
quote:

In the past, when parts of the accelerators have been upgraded or added to, engineers would often additionally replace the cables that connected them. In the process, they would leave in place the old cables that were no longer in use.


Nah, this doesn't sound like a typical engineer one bit. Nope.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:39 am to
Never, ever use zip ties on your cabling. That's a big no-no in the cabling industry. Other than that your work looks good. It would look better if those rogue cables were managed better.

The cable tracing the OP refers to is one of the specialties of my company.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:41 am to
So CERN is equivalent to a shitty data/cabling closet that was hooked up and maintained by the janitor. got it.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:42 am to
If I was not at work I would give you an appropriate "Nice Rack" gif. The scene from Hangover comes to mind.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:42 am to
I've never seen a rack without zip ties.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:43 am to
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Never, ever use zip ties on your cabling


This particular job I ran out of velcro straps, There is 2 other racks that are identical to this one with all velcro. I will go back next week and replace those with velcro. I just had to work with what I had on-site. But I know what you are saying.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:44 am to
CERN engineers never heard of cable ties
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:44 am to
what goes on at LIGO?
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