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re: Casualty in the War on Drugs
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:38 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:38 pm to Topwater Trout
Yes.
The majority of law enforcement and those who work in the cj system do not like it.
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The last thing we need is yet another mind-altering substance to be legalized, says John Lovell, a lobbyist for the California Peace Officers' Association, told Time Magazine.
We have enough problems with alcohol and abuse of pharmaceutical products. Do we really need to add yet another mind-altering substance to the array?
The California Chamber of Commerce has also expressed its opposition to the legalization of marijuana, citing that drug users will not be able to perform at work and that passage could create a new class of protected California citizens.
“Proposition 19 is going to add to employers’ burdens,” Jennifer Shaw, an employment lawyer was quoted as saying, “suggesting that it could make workplaces less safe, increase liability insurance costs and encourage worker lawsuits.”
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Ironically, the legalization of marijuana might actually hurt most those who depend on it for their current livelihood and espouse its consumption.
The majority of law enforcement and those who work in the cj system do not like it.
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:39 pm to GrammarKnotsi
Again. I said use. Not used. How can you not like me already? That hurts a little.
ETA: Also, is it "you use more drugs than me" or "You use more drugs than I"? I struggled with that but figure you would know. I'll hang up and listen.
ETA: Also, is it "you use more drugs than me" or "You use more drugs than I"? I struggled with that but figure you would know. I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:41 pm to Artie Rome
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How can you not like me already? That hurts a little.
Alters are usually caught by now...
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:45 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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Alters are usually caught by now..
Well that doesn't answer my question. Were you a hall monitor?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:47 pm to Artie Rome
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Were you a hall monitor?
and then some....
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yes i saw that. Misunderstanding. I was looking for the less obvious cons that likely will only come to light after legalization happens. Loss of job impacts (if any), what professions will be affected, addiction rates, birth defect rates, etc
It was really a question that probably can't be answered until they have years to study them.
It was really a question that probably can't be answered until they have years to study them.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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Loss of job impacts (if any), what professions will be affected, addiction rates, birth defect rates, etc
I imagine it will result in a loss of jobs in the CJ industry. I have little doubt about that.
As far as the others, I suppose the only way to know is to look at what happened after prohibition, and what's happened on nations who have decriminalized or revamped their drug enforcement policy.
I would assume addiction rates and use would increase slightly, but there would be less danger associated and more money available for treatment, rather than putting someone through the system.
Following the end of prohibition, rates of use increased somewhat but they were rising substantially before the 21st amendment.
I do think the original prohibition is a good blueprint for the current one.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think unemployment and welfare rates would rise
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:02 pm to ManBearTiger
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I'm starting to believe most of the people on this board would have defended the third reich- "Hey if they don't want to go to the camps, don't be a jew living in Europe
I'm starting to believe you are fairly dim. Being born a Jew is not the same as choosing to be a coke head.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:02 pm to Jake88
OP ever say how much coke his buddy got busted with?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:07 pm to Jake88
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I'm starting to believe you are fairly dim. Being born a Jew is not the same as choosing to be a coke head.
I didn't equate the two.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:09 pm to Topwater Trout
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I think unemployment and welfare rates would rise
I think welfare rates would drop over time, fairly dramatically. It's my guess the rates of hard core addiction would be insignificant.
Prison limits employment opportunities, and you have to support dependents while people are in prison. Our rates of imprisonment are embarrassing, highest in the world.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:11 pm to boom roasted
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OP ever say how much coke his buddy got busted with?
I couldn't say, i believe it was shipped in a small-sized box, maybe 8 11/16" x 5 7/16" x 1 3/4"
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Prison limits employment opportunities, and you have to support dependents while people are in prison. Our rates of imprisonment are embarrassing, highest in the world.
And I know you are in AK, but Louisiana has the highest in the country. So we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. You can't tell me that's good for the economy and "welfare state."
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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you have to support dependents while people are in prison
never realized this
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:16 pm to Topwater Trout
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never realized this
It's not statutory or anything. It's just the reality.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:33 pm to Artie Rome
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And I know you are in AK, but Louisiana has the highest in the country. So we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. You can't tell me that's good for the economy and "welfare state."
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It helps perpetuate the welfare state.
The extreme rise in single parent households began with the wars on drugs and poverty. It's no coincidence.
When half the black folks, almost 40% of the white folk have been arrested before they reach 30 your society has a serious issue. I'll guess in La it's even higher.
When men go to prison, the State picks up the tab for their dependents. Since their employment opportunities are nipped, we'll be supporting many for life. It's a perpetual cycle.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:41 pm to Topwater Trout
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Loss of job impacts
TONS of industries will be impacted.
-Lawyers
-Cops
-Jails (both private prison industry and guard unions)
-Substance abuse facilities (no longer mandating people go to escape prison/jail)
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:49 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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TONS of industries will be impacted.
-Lawyers
-Cops
-Jails (both private prison industry and guard unions)
-Substance abuse facilities (no longer mandating people go to escape prison/jail)
Are you saying these would be bad industries to take a chunk out of?
Kind of like saying crime is good because it gives prison guards a job.
ETA: Actually that's exactly what your saying, maybe my sarcasm meter is off atm.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:53 pm to ManBearTiger
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Are you saying these would be bad industries to take a chunk out of?
goes beyond that...what jobs will be made to replace all these jobs
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