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re: Cancer rates in SWLA
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:27 pm to Salmon
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:27 pm to Salmon
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do you think that is where your drinking water is coming from?
I have four water wells on my property there. I know exactly where its pumped up from. Approximately 60 feet. Some deeper if the wells are older.
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:27 pm to redstick13
I work with cancer patients and have noticed some areas that seem to have more than others. To say SWLA though as a whole is not going to narrow it down. I see certain areas, such as around Fort Polk, Jena community, and the farm towns south of Marksville, that seem to have a disproportionate amount of increased rates IMO.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:28 pm to redstick13
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I have four water wells on my property there
you drink from these wells?
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Approximately 60 feet.
screened interval? because that is overkill for SWLA
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:30 pm to redstick13
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My younger brother was a health conscious non smoker. Died suddenly at age 22 from Ewing's. Not a single case in my family prior to him on either side.
Isn't Ewings a chromosomal mutation?
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:31 pm to tigerbutt
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Your title states cancer rates yet you provide none. WTF
No I'm unable to find data specific to this region. I was hoping to hear from people with similar experiences who are from this region. If I had data I wouldn't be asking.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:34 pm to Salmon
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you drink from these wells?
Les common now but it does still happen.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:34 pm to redstick13
Go read Silent Spring by Rachel Carson. You seem the type that would really enjoy it.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:35 pm to redstick13
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My younger brother was a health conscious non smoker. Died suddenly at age 22 from Ewing's. Not a single case in my family prior to him on either side.
Sorry for your loss.
I grew up in a nursery (pretty large wholesale grower) in the 80's and 90's and we hand sprayed everything and handled a lot of chemicals. I've wondered at times if it would cause any health problems, but as of 38 yrs old, nothing. Who knows what will come down the road or the cause. I think overall, it has a lot more to do with what we ingest than what we have handled.
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:36 pm to redstick13
well if anyone is drinking from there own wells they should probably have the water tested, especially if it is near a heavy industrial area
your municipal water supply is tested constantly
your municipal water supply is tested constantly
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:38 pm to Golfer
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Isn't Ewings a chromosomal mutation?
I would need to refresh my knowledge on it. You are most likely correct. It's most common in early to pre-teens. My brother was the oldest treated in Houston at that time. It's insanely aggressive and virtually unsurvivable.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:39 pm to Langston
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it has a lot more to do with what we ingest than what we have handled.
This is true.
His question about chemicals leaching through the soil into the water table is quite completely illogical. The soil types in SWLA are not conducive to leaching of chemicals as they are mostly alluvial clay, which has the near highest binding effects of any soils.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:41 pm to redstick13
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No I'm unable to find data specific to this region. I was hoping to hear from people with similar experiences who are from this region. If I had data I wouldn't be asking.
Well technically you asked for thoughts not stats.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:43 pm to tigerbutt
My parents decided to move from Lake Charles in the early/mid 80s, because of a fosgene leak that sent an infant me to the hospital for a few days. My dad is also an engineer, and knows how absurdly contaminated the soil and environment was back then. It's at the beginning of what's known as the cancer belt.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:44 pm to Langston
I used SWLA as my reference due to my knowledge of the agriculture industry there. Your comments about other agriculture areas are very interesting though.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:45 pm to CCTider
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fosgene
phosgene?
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:46 pm to ThatMakesSense
At least one chemical plant on the river in the river parishes stored large quantities of chlorinated organic liquid byproducts in barrels. These were loaded onto barges and eventually dumped off shore in the Gulf of Mexico. This was in the 60's and 70's. They also direct injected this organic waste into ground disposal wells. They eventually installed incinerators to burn the organic wastes and produce hydrochloric acid.
A lot of organic pollution happened I'm sure at other chemical plants in the 60's and 70's.
I'm pretty sure there is still organic pollution that doesn't get reported, but the environmental pollution today is not nearly as bad as in the past.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:48 pm to redstick13
LINK
One of the many places where you can get data. Cancer is probably the most scrutinized health statistic with mounds of data constantly being collected. Louisiana has an award winning tumor registry.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:49 pm to Nawlens Gator
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At least one chemical plant on the river in the river parishes stored large quantities of chlorinated organic liquid byproducts in barrels. These were loaded onto barges and eventually dumped off shore in the Gulf of Mexico. This was in the 60's and 70's. They also direct injected this organic waste into ground disposal wells. They eventually installed incinerators to burn the organic wastes and produce hydrochloric acid.
A lot of organic pollution happened I'm sure at other chemical plants in the 60's and 70's.
I'm pretty sure there is still organic pollution that doesn't get reported, but the environmental pollution today is not nearly as bad as in the past
I'm not debating the point of industrial pollution. I'm more in defense on the side of agricultural pollutants from farmers. Which is what this guy seems is the problem.
No shite chemical corps fricked the area up with waste.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:49 pm to ThatMakesSense
Our entire oil and gas industry has its roots, so to say, in permeable underground sand formations.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:52 pm to Winkface
Winn and Jackson Parish up near the top. Winn had a creosote plant that was a notorious Superfund site. Jackson has a big paper mill.
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