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Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:27 pm to airfernando
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US has been evolving since before it began. It will continue to morph.
Probably the most realistic answer to the OP. Look at China for example. They have morphed into a very different style of government than what was imposed during the Mao era. The desire for personal property is a component of happiness that the traditional Communist doctrine ignores.
I do not see a cultural subversion being this country's downfall. This country was founded on enterprise and the base human need for personal property. Until those base principles are fully denied to majority of Americans, people will trudge along and continue business as usual.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:30 pm to J Murdah
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Read the book The Accidental Superpower:The Next Generation of American Preeminence and the Coming Global Disorder.
Finished it just 3 weeks ago. GREAT read. Full of conjecture but based on facts. I suggested it to Ferd Terguson but he ignored me. J Murdah, might I suggest you read Setting Sun....takes a far less optimistic view...Study up on your macro financial stuff. It is very short though.
on topic...Yes. but mostly from within. As our government seizes more and more control, we lose initiative. Desire to excel goes away...We are being slowly being crushed....The best thing this country has going for it is freedoms and our yearning to be 'our own persons' for lack of a better term. We are losing it
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:31 pm to Napoleon
That kind of discounts the fact the country split in two for a few years about halfway through. Its been a good long run but Civil War was a major upheaval with social ramifications to this day
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:34 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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All big countries/empires fall at some point. Though it wont be someday soon, one day the US will be no more.
Absolutely true.
Look at the character of your national leaders at the highest levels. That will give you a good idea of where the USA is headed.
Never forget the story of the Rise, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Once the leaders were able to destroy the Republic and turn Rome into a Dictatorship, decline and fall became inevitable.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:35 pm to LCA131
I'll check it out
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:05 pm to OweO
From the outside, no
From the inside, possibly
From the inside, possibly
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:07 pm to J Murdah
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say everyone saying we will collapse from within is wrong.
this is incorrect because that was my position.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:13 pm to LCA131
agree to disagree 
As much social unrest we have, its still a small percentage of people who are unhappy.
As much social unrest we have, its still a small percentage of people who are unhappy.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:16 pm to OweO
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to the point another country
No. It almost happened once, but Lincoln committed the second most horrendous atrocities to the constitution and civilian rights in our countries history and didn't allow it to happen.
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ideology takes over
Had happened at least 6 times that I can think of off the top of my head
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:16 pm to OweO
The South will break off from this shite union and will throw one big grove style party in celebration.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:22 pm to J Murdah
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As much social unrest we have, its still a small percentage of people who are unhappy.
Apologies for being unclear...I don't think we will ever be taken over by another country. I also don't think we COULD revolt against the government. I consider the US being broken when we become so far to the left we are all controlled by those dependent ON the govt. I think more and more of our governing is done based on the non-contributors.
The more autonomy we have the greater our country. I just think it is diminishing faster and faster..
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:31 pm to LCA131
Gotcha, I agree to an extent.
quote:Watch that video I posted. The United States does not have the problem that the rest of the world is facing and that is replacing the Gen X. Therefore the rest of the world is getting older and we are getting younger.
I consider the US being broken when we become so far to the left we are all controlled by those dependent ON the govt.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:33 pm to J Murdah
Yep...Zeihan wrote on that in the book. Again, one of the more enjoyable things I have read in a while. Perhaps because of his optimism. It is nice to find someone else who has read it. I feel so close.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:39 pm to AFistfulof$
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Morally, ethically, and financially it has already happened.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 4:17 pm to JETigER
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Islam broke America when Muslims enslaved Africans and said to America, bring your ships and pick up these Africans that have been enslaved in the name of Alla.
Africa was broken long before Islam took the scene.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 4:41 pm to upgrayedd
China has a demographic, legitimacy and territory problem. They are as likely to have a revolution as to become a true military superpower, although, they are arguably already an economic one. India has a population and cultural problem. Russia has a very old political problem. "Europe" can't hold it together long enough to matter and none of their constituent states have the resources to become a superpower alone.
We're looking pretty good for the near future.
We're looking pretty good for the near future.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 4:59 pm to OweO
Already happened...
Enjoy the ride as the economy crumbles from QE, debt and reckless derivatives.
Enjoy the ride as the economy crumbles from QE, debt and reckless derivatives.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 5:06 pm to IceTiger
I won't be broken. As I am a middle classes and have set myself up for later on. The country will be ok as long as my grandson is alive so I am good with things. But for all the people that say it's already broke, I agree. After 9/11 there is no telling what group can screw with us....
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