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re: California is now home to the largest solar power plant in the world (pictures)
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:19 pm to REG861
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:19 pm to REG861
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How much are we paying for it?
Basing my calculations off of the $25000 grant that Louisiana is giving homeowners to install on their roof. (18 panels on average...)
300,000 panels at that plant (as per the article)
Divided by 18 (# of panels in LA Grant program)
= 16666.66666666667
multiplied by $25,000.00 (Louisiana's Grant Dollar Amount)
= $416,666,666.67
And that's not taking the robotic fixtures of the ones at this plant into consideration. So this is a very conservative number.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:20 pm to Emiliooo
I know. We own some of them. But to say a blanket statement like "wind is more economical" is short sighted.
And again, those farms often get curtailed and become useless on the days where so much wattage is on the grid and you have KV issues.
And again, those farms often get curtailed and become useless on the days where so much wattage is on the grid and you have KV issues.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:22 pm to cdaniel76
You can't divide it like that
Those 300,000 panels are the size of garage doors. How big are the 18 panels you can install on your rool?
Those 300,000 panels are the size of garage doors. How big are the 18 panels you can install on your rool?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:23 pm to ell_13
Completely agreed, when I was writing that post, I couldn't think of any other wind farms besides the one in the panhandles.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:27 pm to hikingfan
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As a state CA gives more to the federal government and takes less in return than the great state of Louisiana. The best innovations in the world come from there. So yeah, maybe you should follow their lead.
I don't want to follow that piece of shite state in about 85% of what they do.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:29 pm to Emiliooo
There are lots of farms. We just bought a company that was in bankruptcy because have of their max MW came from wind in the Midwest. They still own the regular gas and coal, but they overbought on wind that never generated any money.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:41 pm to hikingfan
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ready to generate nearly 30 percent of all solar thermal energy produced in the United States
30 percent of a very small number is still a very small number (no matter how many pretty pictures they take of it).
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:49 pm to CP3LSU25
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I don't want to follow that piece of shite state in about 85% of what they do.
oh no, CP3LSU doesn't like us, what should we do
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:52 pm to Golfer
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frick off. They are getting oil from us with minimal royalty fees all while pissing away our coastline.
You can thank the great Huey Long for that.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:54 pm to ell_13
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I did read the rest of your comment. But you can't say it's economical then make points that support it not being economical.
I just meant that the cost to produce wind power is more in line with fossil fuels than solar. It still has major limitations, but it's a hell of a lot better than solar. I mean, hydroelectric is the best, but we've pretty much tapped out the best locations for it. We could do some retrofitting to existing dams to squeeze out some additional power, but it's not going to be a huge amount.
The "geographical limitations and intermittency" pertains exactly to what you said btw.
For the record, I'm pretty sure I'm in agreement with you.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:54 pm to ell_13
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There are lots of farms.
Yup...Iowa, Texas, California have a ton of wind farms. Arizona, Utah, the Pacific Northwest, Illinois and Upstate New York have quite a few wind farms as well. I worked for a company that was involved with wind farm construction a few years ago and I had the western territory. All sorts of wind farms were going up/re-powered in Mojave, Tehachapi, Burney CA, Milford UT etc at that time. Louisiana actually has a test wind turbine on the Mandeville side of the Causeway right by the toll plaza that Cleco is involved with.
Also just read this for the first possible Louisiana wind farm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:57 pm to HurricaneDunc
Have they learned how to clean the mirrors yet?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:59 pm to Tigris
If only there was a board around here designed for dick-bags to spout off their poorly thought out political views...........
That would be something.
That would be something.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:02 pm to cdaniel76
Not sure if you're serious, but it's a $3.5 billion project of which $1.5 billion is guaranteed by the federal government. So it doesn't cost us anything unless it fails. Then it's $1.5 billion.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:03 pm to hikingfan
$2.2 Billion dollars worth of mirrors....wow!
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:09 pm to Yat27
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I mean, hydroelectric is the best, but we've pretty much tapped out the best locations for it.
A few years ago this company, Free Flow Power, was looking at numerous sites in the Mississippi River in LA but it looks like that fell through. They were based in Nola and were hot to trot for a few years.
quote:
Free Flow Power project development director Jon Guidroz says the projects have become economically unviable. He says the focus is on natural gas since prices are down. Also, federal tax credits many hydropower companies rely on will expire.
They put a test turbine in the water connected to the Dow Plaquemine dock then.
LINK
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:38 pm to hikingfan
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The water shortage has to do with the lack of rainfall and drought. How is that relevant here?
Two words - straw / man
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When you look at this outside the graphs you read on the HuffPo, and dig a bit, it's not nearly as clear cut as you think it is.
True, but it still doesnt justify the uniformed stupidity you often see here any time the word "California" is mentio ed. That state co tributes tremendously to the vitality of this country. I cant really understand people bashing this plant. They have tons of sun. They are harnessing it to make energy. Seems lime a smart idea to me, even if the technology is not as efficient as another.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:47 pm to VetteGuy
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To expend resources on something that is as foolish as solar power when the state is obviously facing more significant issues seems silly.
Should everyone stop what they are doing and work on a way to manufacture water?
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