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re: British coroner rules woman's death caused by cannabis toxicity

Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:10 pm to
daily mail = national enquirer
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:19 pm to
I have something to add to this discussion....

As I see the discussion about legalizing marijuana heating up, I am concerned for the future of our young people. I hear a lot of discussion emphasizing the benefits of marijuana, which drove the medical benefits discussion, and a lot of misinformation about the effects of marijuana, and now even our president has compared it to the social use of alcohol. In reality, there is no comparison to alcohol at all. Let me tell you why I learned to hate marijuana.

I'm not a user or even or former user of marijuana. I was a counselor of troubled youth back in the 1960s and 1970s and I saw the lives of hundreds of young people ruined by marijuana during that time, and today's drug is said to be 10 times more potent than it was then. I saw the lives of families torn apart as formerly happy children became distant and angry, failing in school and uninterested in school activities. Parents who came to me for answers were desperate to stop this destruction as they saw their family relationships destroyed and their children's' future being stolen. That's when I began to hate marijuana.

Marijuana is not like alcohol in any way. The person next to you may have a highball at a party. If you drink a Coke, his highball has no effect on you. On the other hand, if any person in the room has a joint, everyone in the room is affected. Let me go on to other differences. Alcohol is a food product and the human body recognizes it as such and immediately begins to break it down and digest it. Marijuana is a drug foreign to the human physical system. Alcohol will be digested and disappear from the body within hours of drinking. Marijuana will stay in the system for long periods of time, causing distortions of time and space. Let me illustrate:

If a social drinker has two glasses of wine with dinner every night, he or she might feel relaxed for the rest of the evening, but soon the effect diminishes and goes away. If a social marijuana user has a joint every night, he or she gets the euphoria he or she is looking for, but the drug remains in the body long into the next few days. If they continue on a daily basis, the drug never leaves the system and they function every day under its influence. I learned in my work that the effect can last as long as 30 days from the last joint. Think of the consequences. Drivers on our highways with distorted time and space problems. Does anyone really believe children will not get a message from us that it's OK for them, too? Laws do not stop teenage drinking.

I could go on, but I leave you with this challenge. Where is the pushback from all you who know the truth about marijuana, whose lives were changed, who are recovering even today? Where are the other experts who can speak up? Am I the only person?
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Am I the only person?


Apparently.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:35 pm to
Most of the people I know whose lives were affected by marijuana were only affected because they got busted with a small amount and got arrested and the legal ramifications made it harder for them to find a job and cost them the out of pocket money in court. I can't think of any instances where the mere act of smoking negatively affected anybody minus a few unfortunate fast food choices at 3am. Not any more negative than smoking cigarettes at least, I'm not gonna act like its healthy for you.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:35 pm to
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Marijuana is a drug foreign to the human physical system.


Im not trying to throw bones with my low post count, but if this is true why do we have natural cannabinoid receptors in our brains?
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:42 pm to
Anybody that has smoked and never experienced being "hospital high"..just hasnt smoked enough
Posted by Redacted
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I can't think of any instances where the mere act of smoking negatively affected anybody


The term burnt exists for a reason. I don't think it caused the death in that bullshite article, but I have a few friends that are pretty much permastoned, even if they go weeks without smoking.
Posted by LSUcrawfish
St George,Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:11 pm to
Legalizing Weed will end up messing up so many young peoples lives, and lead to harder drugs. Freak DRUGS
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:45 pm to
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Legalizing Weed will end up messing up so many young peoples lives, and lead to harder drugs.

Actually tobacco is a much stronger gateway drug. Study after study shows it. Nobody is talking about making tobacco illegal
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12061 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The term burnt exists for a reason. I don't think it caused the death in that bullshite article, but I have a few friends that are pretty much permastoned, even if they go weeks without smoking.



So does the term alcoholic. Anything can be negative if it is abused. Sex is great unless you become a sex addict and start banging hookers a few times a day.

More people have died from overdosing on water than marijuana.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 6:09 pm to
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Legalizing Weed will end up messing up so many young peoples lives, and lead to harder drugs. Freak DRUGS


Here here!
























We're both joking, right?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 6:27 pm to
As a medical professional, I call bullshite.
Posted by Come2Conquer
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

If a social drinker has two glasses of wine with dinner every night, he or she might feel relaxed for the rest of the evening, but soon the effect diminishes and goes away. If a social marijuana user has a joint every night, he or she gets the euphoria he or she is looking for, but the drug remains in the body long into the next few days. If they continue on a daily basis, the drug never leaves the system and they function every day under its influence


Perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read with respect to marijuana. Cannabis is fat-soluble; meaning the metabolites are available for detection long after, say, a water-soluble chemical is. That doesn't mean you're under the effects of the drug for that length of time.

Good lord.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4911 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:13 pm to
Well if this lady smoked half a joint and died, then I have smoked enough to kill the entire Chinese army in my life.

Honestly, the one negative I know about with pot is it does make your heart race some but so does a jog around the block.

No big deal in a normal healthy human, however I could see someone with heart disease who is not used to smoking maybe having a heart attack after a smoke. That would be a very rare case and not near the damage done daily from drinking in our society.

Hell I had a bad dream the other night that I think involved lady gaga and woke up with my heart racing. So you could say Lady Gaga is bad for my health as well.


Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:18 pm to
Easy to spot the potheads in here

NO frickING WAY YOU CANT DIE FROM KIND ITS NATURAL BRAH !!!!!!!
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:25 pm to
So much wrong with this:
First-
quote:

The inquest was told that Miss Moss smoked half a joint a night to help her sleep.

If marijuana toxicity is indeed possible, you're not getting it from this.

quote:

The devout Christian had been a frequent user but stopped for two years before her death last October.

Not relevant to the story.

quote:

A female friend told police Miss Moss smoked as much as £60 worth of the drug a week, although her family disputed this.

Roughly $100/week. For really good weed, $100 will get you about 1/3 of an ounce.
Not much for the average pothead.

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On the night of October 28 last year Miss Moss, who had two sons, Tyler, 15, and Tessiah, eight, and a daughter who lives abroad

If math serves, mama likes to party. Weed is likely not her only vice.

This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted by RTOTA
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2010
588 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:57 pm to
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I'm not a user or even or former user of marijuana
quote:

That's when I began to hate marijuana.

Seems to be the case with people who warn about the dangers of weed. I really hope you're trolling
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