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re: Brendan Dassey's conviction has been overturned.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:46 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:46 pm to AlbertMeansWell
I have no idea what any of this means.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:46 pm to ell_13
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The chlorine all over one set of clothes that he tried to get rid of along with his uncle. There was lots that wasn't in the doc.
He also told them where he cleaned in the garage and how they cleaned it. Would have been pretty impossible to guess.
I don't know. This one has me scratching my head. I agree that his interrogation should have been inadmissible but it's hard to believe he didn't have something to do with it - even if it was just the clean up part.
ETA - the clean up part was explained in an earlier post.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:47 pm to ell_13
Worded it wrong.
Mom said she saw Brendan helping clean up the garage with Avery. Thought it was just normal chores or something.
Brendan never saw blood or realized there was blood.
Again, the uncle totally did it and I think he killed her in the garage, hid it well, and the cops framed him to make sure he went away. I think they used a mentally retarded kid as part of that plan and fricked him over in the process.
If Brendan had a competent attorney with him from the first minute the cops showed up, there is a 0% chance he is in jail right now.
Mom said she saw Brendan helping clean up the garage with Avery. Thought it was just normal chores or something.
Brendan never saw blood or realized there was blood.
Again, the uncle totally did it and I think he killed her in the garage, hid it well, and the cops framed him to make sure he went away. I think they used a mentally retarded kid as part of that plan and fricked him over in the process.
If Brendan had a competent attorney with him from the first minute the cops showed up, there is a 0% chance he is in jail right now.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Him and his mom have admitted to helping Avery cleaning the garage. They thought he was just cleaning it to clean it and there was no blood.
i still have a hard time believing that rag tag crew could sanitize any space after the type of incident that was alleged.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:50 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Good for him. He missed WrestleMania though.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:no doubt. But I think brendan saw all or part maybe even helped but didn't really understand what was going on. I don't think it was the garage. The tore up the concrete, remember? And didn't find a single thing.
Again, the uncle totally did it
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Again, the uncle totally did it and I think he killed her in the garage, hid it well, and the cops framed him to make sure he went away. I think they used a mentally retarded kid as part of that plan and fricked him over in the process.
that would likely be my take too. i dont know that they ever put a story forward that made a ton of sense (and what they used at the two trials wasnt the same was it?)
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:52 pm to Goldrush25
Never before seen footage of Dassey's attorney. It was him the whole time!!
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:53 pm to ell_13
Yeah maybe in the yard outside or something and the rain washed it away.
There is just no way Brendan should be in jail right now. That story was so bullshite and he changed it 100 times and they proved that they suggested to him what to say and he just repeated it...on camera.
And the lack of physical evidence...
And the whole "mentally retarded" thing...
And the whole "minor without attorney or guardian" thing...
There is just no way Brendan should be in jail right now. That story was so bullshite and he changed it 100 times and they proved that they suggested to him what to say and he just repeated it...on camera.
And the lack of physical evidence...
And the whole "mentally retarded" thing...
And the whole "minor without attorney or guardian" thing...
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
They found bones in the yard and in the quarry. It happened in one of those two places I think. No one could ever really explain how her bones got so far away.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
I watched the doc and was sick to my stomach. I realize the doc is biased. That's fine. But the things that were brought up certainly would have given me a reasonable doubt in the context presented.
Having said that there is no defense for the actions of the sheriff's department, the DA or the incompetent defense lawyer (in Dassey's case). Those interrogations with Dassay, the DA's commentary and the defense lawyer's commentary make it hard to say Dassay got a fair shake. And in criminal cases everyone should get exactly that.
Having said that there is no defense for the actions of the sheriff's department, the DA or the incompetent defense lawyer (in Dassey's case). Those interrogations with Dassay, the DA's commentary and the defense lawyer's commentary make it hard to say Dassay got a fair shake. And in criminal cases everyone should get exactly that.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:58 pm to TheCaterpillar
Another thing that got me was Kratz said in his closing argument that they stabbed her multiple times and slit her throat in the trailer while chained to the bed yet there was zero blood. Those two nimwits would have trouble cleaning up a spilt soda much less removing human blood. I mean anybody with a functional brain should be able to tell that simply did not happen.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:59 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I'm pretty sure there are and the judge still ruled all of his "confession" admissible.
Minors generally must be told they can have a parent or lawyer present, but the decision is still left up to the minor. It isn't all that different from Miranda.
In fact, the Supreme Court (5-4 decision) only recently held that a person's minor status should be part of the calculus in determining when an interrogation even requires Miranda warnings.
So, minors are slightly more protected in when they have to be informed of their rights, but they are still entirely free to waive them and incriminate themselves.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:00 pm to JOJO Hammer
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was extremely bias.
Biased.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:01 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Kid got royally screwed. Glad it eventually got corrected.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:06 pm to AlbertMeansWell
How are you feeling now that the conviction is overturned?
BD: Yeah
BD: Yeah
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:19 pm to GCTiger11
I'm happy for him. Now let's see how much he learned while in prison and how long it takes for him to do something stupid when drunk.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:21 pm to TheCaterpillar
This guy needs to take Brendan's place in jail:
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:24 pm to goldenbadger08
Awesome news! Now they need to prosecute and jail the detectives who interrogated and abused Brendan Dassey
Posted on 8/12/16 at 4:45 pm to CapperVin
He didn't dooo-uht
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