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re: BR Neighborhood in Top 25 Worst Neighborhoods in US

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Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:33 am to
When it's on a top 25 most dangerous list, yes.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:33 am to
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?



Uh yeah? Do they deserve any more concessions just to not change their ways for the better?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:34 am to
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I know it's a bad part of town, but to be 25th out of the whole country kind of surprised me.


How so when there are neighborhoods in even smaller cities that are worse?
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:35 am to
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?


I grew up in Villa Del Rey in the 80's and 90's and people use to think that neighborhood was a nice neighborhood. Now that neighborhood is known as a bad neighborhood.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:36 am to
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?


When it's been effectively abandoned, yes. Not to mention, it's being replaced by a much improved version.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 8:38 am
Posted by LloydChristmas
in a van down by the river
Member since Nov 2009
2829 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:36 am to



The new development plan pics look pretty good
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:39 am to
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?



well for one the 'neighborhood' in question was a city owned project known for being a hotbed of FQ crime. The city in the last decade (and more so since katrina) has been phasing out it's large monolithic projects and replacing them with more contemporary smaller structures. The St. Bernard was a shite hole, what it is now is probably nicer than most apartments in Baton Rouge. The Magnolia is gated with a swimming pool. Non swimmer jokes will be crushed eventually.
So the crown jewel of the housing redevolpment will be the redevelopment of it's worst (by this list, I disagree with it though) unit, into a mixed income use area. And why we as white males will laugh at the notion that mixed use spaces don't work. The River Garden complex kinda proved that wrong. It is working and attracting national retailers to put in shops.

So now you will have mixed use, mixed income... and why will people buy into it? Because it's blocks away from the most sought after property in the city.

So it's disingenuous to say NOLA fixes problems by tearing them down. NOLA fixes problems by "Building it Better".

Which IMO is much better than separating a city in two.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58863 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:40 am to
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Is that how you fix a problem, by demolishing the neighborhood?


They won't demolish it. They'll try to isolate themselves from it for a decade or so on their way out of town and let the lowest common denominator demolish it.

It will be a long time before BR finally figures out to fix the problem by a counter invasion of their own by investing in it instead of running, and thus driving the problem out with the only real tool at their disposal, their proverbial nuclear bomb... MONEY!

Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:41 am to
Improving the visual presentation of an area could do alot to a neighborhood. Majority of the buildings in that area are either vacant or run down.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:43 am to
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Improving the visual presentation of an area could do alot to a neighborhood. Majority of the buildings in that area are either vacant or run down.



Broken Window theory
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:50 am to
and it works.

New Olreans took the ghetto Magazine Street and turned it into a shopping destiantion.

Freret Street is actually a dining destination now. OC Haley is coming up, there is a whole Foods on Broad. Central City and St. Claude are even seeing new developments.

The hurricane was a blessing in disguise, IMO.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13858 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:54 am to
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The hurricane was a blessing in disguise, IMO.

Damn..
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35528 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:55 am to
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East St. Louis, IL
(City Center) 100.97


Over 100%. Impressive.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:56 am to
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Damn..


Yes it was devastating, but everything, I mean everything has improved because of it. Yes people lost lives and that is sad. But the city would be in much worse shape had it not happened.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:57 am to
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Over 100%. Impressive.


No, over 10% of people will be victims of viloent crime. It's 100.97 per 100,000 residents.
Posted by toca16
Member since Feb 2014
245 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:57 am to
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Shocking I tell ya
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:59 am to
Stay classy Baton Rouge.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16742 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:59 am to
So. Sprinkle the poor dangerous people in with the middle class to rich white people?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58863 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:59 am to
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and it works.


Of course it works. When you invest in a place make it a thing of value, there isn't any place for the zeroes to go but away, and where they go, who cares, just not here. Do that all over the city, and build shite that matters and is worth valuing long term and people will fight for it.

In this case, we are witnessing what BR did years ago in slapping shite construction up years ago to make fast money, and now it's not new or shiny anymore. What's depressing though, is that we are still doing the same things in construction, maybe worse, and I suppose expecting a different result this time?

Patterns are here to be learned from and corrected. I'm just not too sure how long it will take, or how much real estate were going to have to surrender until we recognize those patterns and effects, and change directions to one that makes more sense for the value of this place long term as a place to "Live" rather than "Stay"

Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:05 am to
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Over 100%. Impressive.


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No, over 10% of people will be victims of viloent crime. It's 100.97 per 100,000 residents.


Keep 'em coming.
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