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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:52 pm to Zappas Stache
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:52 pm to Zappas Stache
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In February 1893
Your point is invalid. That comes from a time when bike outnumbered autos in larger numbers than autos outnumber bikes today.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:53 pm to tigerinthebueche
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no it hasn't.
Copenhagen says hi.
Of course it is possible to poorly engineer bike paths / lanes and screw up traffic for everybody. But that doesn't mean there isn't a right way to do it.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:57 pm to SUB
That looks miserable... 
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:58 pm to SUB
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Copenhagen says hi.
I guess I now know where Kip and the gang will take their next fact-finding trip. Austin is not hip enough anymore, BR needs to be the next Copenhagen, right??
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:59 pm to SUB
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Copenhagen says hi.
Copenhagen is one of the cities I am talking about.
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According to the Danish Cyclists' Federation and Wonderful Copenhagen, the official tourism organisation for Denmark, the sheer success of the drive to get more locals and tourists on bikes is creating a dangerous, intimidating and unpleasant climate for cyclists in the city.
"In Copenhagen, we have quite extraordinary problems around cycling congestion," said Aneh Hajdu, of Wonderful Copenhagen. "I don't take my children on their bikes into Copenhagen at rush hour any more. It's too dangerous and scary. I just wouldn't risk it."
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:01 pm to SUB
With 800,000 people in the metro area Baton Rouge can't even secure funding to build even a partial alternate route to I-10.
An extra 6 feet for bike lanes to major arteries like Perkins, Government, Sherwood Forest, Burbank, or even Highland may as well be the moon. Sadly, that's where they are needed....not a residential street like Glenmore.
Hopefully when they widen Nicholson south of LSU, they leave enough space for street parking, sidewalks, and bike lanes.
An extra 6 feet for bike lanes to major arteries like Perkins, Government, Sherwood Forest, Burbank, or even Highland may as well be the moon. Sadly, that's where they are needed....not a residential street like Glenmore.
Hopefully when they widen Nicholson south of LSU, they leave enough space for street parking, sidewalks, and bike lanes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:03 pm to shawnlsu
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our point is invalid.
Was responding to the poster who said roads were never meant for bikes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:09 pm to tigerinthebueche
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"In Copenhagen, we have quite extraordinary problems around cycling congestion," said Aneh Hajdu, of Wonderful Copenhagen. "I don't take my children on their bikes into Copenhagen at rush hour any more. It's too dangerous and scary. I just wouldn't risk it."
I have ridden a bike in Copenhagen at rush hour many times and It is not dangerous. Copenhagen cyclist are rule followers....they signal with their hands and ride in a very predictable manor. For a small child going very slow it may be intimidating. Now in Amsterdam it is more of a free-for-all.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:14 pm to Zappas Stache
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I have ridden a bike in Copenhagen at rush hour many times and It is not dangerous. Copenhagen cyclist are rule followers....they signal with their hands and ride in a very predictable manor. For a small child going very slow it may be intimidating. Now in Amsterdam it is more of a free-for-all.
Must be depressing to return to Snotterburgh after a jaunt across the continent.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:16 pm to hawkster
My new isn't narrow. If your commute was faster, your property would be more expensive. And you'd have to live further away if poor. Livingston Parish residents do not have a say in BR bike lanes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:22 pm to dewster
Actually, most of those thoroughfares you list have plenty of room for a bike lane. Most roads in this Parish have previously been designed and built with 12' lanes. FHWA recommends lane widths between 10'-12' for arterial and collector roads. Most two lane roads could easily dedicate a 2' lane on each side and 4 lane roads a 4' lane on each side. Not ideal bike lane widths, but better than nothing. So with some simple restriping, all of those roads could have bike lanes. The political and public will is the problem.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:25 pm to torrey225
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My new isn't narrow. If your commute was faster, your property would be more expensive. And you'd have to live further away if poor. Livingston Parish residents do not have a say in BR bike lanes.
"Your view isn't narrow", but it's either Mid-City or Livingston Parish with you, right? Nothing else in between??
I don't even commute, not on an 8 to 5 schedule or anything like it. But I deal with stupid traffic just about anytime I try to travel in BR (where I live, too) and I really don't believe that bike lanes and sidewalks are going to make a noticeable dent in that problem.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:29 pm to LSUBoo
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I'll give you a shovel and wheelbarrow, when can you start?
You ole Puss.
I was thinking more along the lines of one of BR's next mayoral candidates putting this on his/her platform.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:30 pm to Zappas Stache
I'm not suggesting cycling doesn't have a legitimate place in the discussion of auto traffic problems/solutions, but to suggest its the panacea for all BR's (or any other city's)traffic problems is simply wrong.
Imagine trying to get from downtown to Highland Park via a bike on a summer afternoon in the middle of a thunderstorm. In your suit or work clothes! It would suck. Sure its a good alternative in cooler climates- like Co or Ca. But I dont think its viable for BR.
Imagine trying to get from downtown to Highland Park via a bike on a summer afternoon in the middle of a thunderstorm. In your suit or work clothes! It would suck. Sure its a good alternative in cooler climates- like Co or Ca. But I dont think its viable for BR.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:33 pm to tigerinthebueche
Let's cure the cyclist problem and the EBR interstate traffic problems.
Put the freaking bike lanes on I-10. Let the cyclists get their jollies on that death trap.
Put the freaking bike lanes on I-10. Let the cyclists get their jollies on that death trap.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:36 pm to LSUengr
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Actually, most of those thoroughfares you list have plenty of room for a bike lane. Most roads in this Parish have previously been designed and built with 12' lanes. FHWA recommends lane widths between 10'-12' for arterial and collector roads. Most two lane roads could easily dedicate a 2' lane on each side and 4 lane roads a 4' lane on each side. Not ideal bike lane widths, but better than nothing. So with some simple restriping, all of those roads could have bike lanes. The political and public will is the problem.
You could legitimately put a bike lane down one side Perkins road by just narrowing the lanes a little bit. Most likely, you would have room for a buffer zone between the bike and car traffic.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:37 pm to LSUengr
DOTD has been unwilling to allow sidewalks on the roads in BR despite UDC requiring them. I bet they'd crap themselves if we brought up bike lanes.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:41 pm to tigerinthebueche
The best thing for long/hot/hilly commutes is an electric assist bicycle. It assists during uphill. Makes your entire city "flat".
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:41 pm to LSUengr
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Not ideal bike lane widths, but better than nothing
Bike lane is usually 3' wide minimum unfortunately. So taking 1' out of each motorist lane on a 4 lane road wouldn't be enough for two lanes for most roads. You wouldn't want to ride in a 2' bike lane flanked by an 11" motorist lane on Perkins....especially at night.
On the other hand.....Where they've widened Perkins more recently, however, they've included a 13' and sometimes a 14' outside lane along with 6' wide sidewalks. A 3' bike lane wouldn't be hard there on both sides at all. That's basically the newer part of Perkins east of Essen to Siegen. It would just need new stripes.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:45 pm to dewster
I know that there has been some talk in our neighborhood of dedicating bike lanes but with the demands that the cyclists are making & the way they are acting, it will never happen now. The neighborhood civic association just cancelled a meeting to discuss this issue. And the point was made that it was cancelled, not postponed.
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