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Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:58 pm to Carson123987
I would love to,but I'm in Las Vegas
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:03 am to Hester Carries
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anything but gobbledygook inside your own head.
pretty much
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:05 am to lsu480
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My ni.....
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:05 am to biglego
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:11 am to BGSB
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pretty much
Hey man. I can respect that. Although I'm interested as to what you consider yourself from religious stand point?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:16 am to Hester Carries
You really care what his religious view is?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:17 am to Hester Carries
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Hey man. I can respect that. Although I'm interested as to what you consider yourself from religious stand point?
I'm not religious, was raised catholic, but never could live up to the expectations. I'd go to confession before mass, then on the way to communion, I'd lust at the fine arse swaying on the woman in front of me, and think, damn, I'm gonna burn for this ! I would say I'm a Spiritual seeker, out of sheer desperation rather than any moral standpoint.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:18 am to BGSB
There is indeed a lot of fine arse at church.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:24 am to biglego
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There is indeed a lot of fine arse at church.
yep yep
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:50 am to biglego
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You really care what his religious view is?
Sure. I'd like to understand his point of view. And now I do.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:51 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Fack
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:50 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
The great thing about believing in an afterlife is you won't be dissapointed.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 7:11 am to Amazing Moves
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The only reason you believe is because your parents believed. Because their parents believed and so on. Its called childhood indoctrination.
Not me. My father didn't believe, my mother did but never once pushed it on me or talked to me about it. Came to my belief on my own.
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Then you congregate with others who were in the same position. Then you feed off of each others emotions which helps cement the belief system
Nope. I don't belong to a church and haven't attended one in decades, literally.
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Religion is the only thing in this world that doesn't require observable proof.
Naw. Who has ever observed the postulated multiverse that's used to explain why things are so perfect for life to form in this universe? Who ever observed the singularity that preceded the big bang? Or any one of a number of other things I could mention that are postulated to fill in the gaps of the theories of how things are here all by themselves, but which have never been observed, and never will be.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:53 am to Mr. Shake
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The great thing about believing in an afterlife is you won't be dissapointed.
What if afterlife is real but it's one with a different God and you don't get to go?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:56 am to tobythetiger
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Who has ever observed the postulated multiverse that's used to explain why things are so perfect for life to form in this universe?
I've already told you that this isn't correct.
A)this universe isn't perfect for life.
B)this universes features don't match the criteria for life. It's the other way around.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 9:20 am to Hester Carries
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What if afterlife is real but it's one with a different God and you don't get to go?
I was just trying to be clever. I believe the time after death will be like the time before birth. I wasn't aware of anything and it didn't bother me in the least.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:48 am to Hester Carries
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I've already told you that this isn't correct. A)this universe isn't perfect for life. B)this universes features don't match the criteria for life. It's the other way around.
You've said it-but you haven't backed it up with any objective evidence. The only life we know of and have observed exists in this universe, and if any one of an innumerable number of things were just slightly different, the only kind of life we know of wouldn't exist. What evidence do you have otherwise?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:29 am to tobythetiger
Well we see that life finds a way on a micro level. The life that exists now is different in water than on land than in cold than in hot than in high altitudes than in low altitudes. We also know that life existed in the past with no oxygen and once the existence of that life began to produce oxygen life began to develop a need and use for it. If life has shown us millions of times over that it will find a way to mold itself to fit its surroundings why would that not have always been the case.
Also to claim that the universe is finely tuned to support life is false. There are far more things working against it than for it. Hell, 99% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct. That's a pretty big failure rate.
Also to claim that the universe is finely tuned to support life is false. There are far more things working against it than for it. Hell, 99% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct. That's a pretty big failure rate.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:06 pm to Hester Carries
Yet evolutionists tell us all life evolved from the same simple single celled organism(s), and then adapted to different environments. Everything required for that relies on the physical laws of this universe, and the balances between them-without which the environments could never have existed, nor the conditions within or by which said organisms were somehow formed, much less the organisms themselves. In other words, if things were just slightly different, no life could have formed, because the chemicals compositions and other things that led to life could not be there to form them.
In addition, your explanation postulates some kind of notion of 'life' that somehow transcends this universe-i.e., life is some kind of thing unto itself, that would just somehow 'find a way' within any or other ways physical laws could be arranged.
Again, it comes down to this-the only kind(s) of life we know of and can observe rely on the physical laws of this universe, without which they could never have existed. Anything else beyond that is unproven and unprovable, and must be taken on 'faith'.
In addition, your explanation postulates some kind of notion of 'life' that somehow transcends this universe-i.e., life is some kind of thing unto itself, that would just somehow 'find a way' within any or other ways physical laws could be arranged.
Again, it comes down to this-the only kind(s) of life we know of and can observe rely on the physical laws of this universe, without which they could never have existed. Anything else beyond that is unproven and unprovable, and must be taken on 'faith'.
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