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re: Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:46 pm to HeadChange
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:46 pm to HeadChange
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That's not god, that's reality. God doesn't exist in reality. It exists in faith. Quite the difference.
your like the little fish swimming around who asked another fish, "what is this water you speak of?"
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:47 pm to HeadChange
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Let me apologize. I had no idea you were this enlightened
Do you know what enlightenment really means?
The end of suffering
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:51 pm to HeadChange
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Yes, this is a moral victory for you. I'm raising the white flag. There is no room for conversation here.
This isn't a "moral victory" type discussion for me. Its much bigger. Its not a discussion one Christian or atheist "wins" or "loses". Its a discussion of what real truth is, and the answer has eternal consequences for all of mankind. It really should be given deep deep thought on everyone's part.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:57 pm to HeadChange
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Let me apologize. I had no idea you were this enlightened.
I didn't come to these conclusions because i was enlightened, quite the opposite. All suffering, illness, pain, sorrow, grief, and depression happens to people that finally heard the call and answered it.
Problem is, once they answered it, they want to change their mind, but you can't un ring a bell. The suffering is not from anything but resistance to be enlightened, to wake up.
Because waking up means no more individuality, no more *Me, no more independence, no more being unique, special, apart from.
So what happens if you don't become enlightened? You get to start over here, and try again.
Welcome to reality
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:03 pm to BGSB
Preaching. That's not providing facts or anything rational for that matter.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:04 pm to Amazing Moves
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Preaching. That's not providing facts or anything rational for that matter.
Well, that's like your opinion man
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:25 pm to BGSB
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Both sides hold on vehemently to their ideology. I just know that one side is gonna be VERY SURPRISED when they slip off into eternity. Its heartbreaking, but like I said before, God allows us to make our choice to believe or not. Just be prepared to deal with the eternal consequences when you are wrong.
1. How do you know that you're not the wrong flavor of Christianity? You know that all other religious people all over the world believe just as deeply that they're right and you're wrong and support their beliefs in exactly the same way as you with the same sort of "proof?"
2. Let's set aside for a moment all the logical flaws in the standard American Christian version of eternal damnation. Let's look straight to the Bible. Do you believe in a literal reading of the Bible or a figurative interpretation? Or do you pick and choose which to read literally and which ones to interpret as being poetic or figurative in nature?
Romans 6:23 - For the wages of Sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (From Merriam-Webster : to die or be killed, to disappear or be destroyed, to cease to exist)
Matthew 10:28 - And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell. (destroy : to cause something to end or no longer exist)
There's tons more if anyone gives two shits.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:32 pm to Huey Lewis
Nobody does.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:33 pm to Huey Lewis
quote:
. How do you know that you're not the wrong flavor of Christianity? You know that all other religious people all over the world believe just as deeply that they're right and you're wrong and support their beliefs in exactly the same way as you with the same sort of "proof?"
2. Let's set aside for a moment all the logical flaws in the standard American Christian version of eternal damnation. Let's look straight to the Bible. Do you believe in a literal reading of the Bible or a figurative interpretation? Or do you pick and choose which to read literally and which ones to interpret as being poetic or figurative in nature?
Romans 6:23 - For the wages of Sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (From Merriam-Webster : to die or be killed, to disappear or be destroyed, to cease to exist)
Matthew 10:28 - And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell. (destroy : to cause something to end or no longer exist)
There's tons more if anyone gives two shits.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but the apostles weren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, He was forever correcting them, and even by the end of his life, they didn't get it.
Take it for what its worth to you
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:52 pm to biglego
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It's never been explained to me why "faith" is such a virtue. Of all the things God might care about, faith is an odd choice.
According to Matthew, He really doesn't.
But casual Catholics and some of the fundies have adopted the faith test as a sort of easy button.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:24 pm to Walking the Earth
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"faith" is such a virtue
Its an advantage, it takes the worry out of everything, allows you to focus the mind on the present moment, which is all there really is.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:32 pm to BGSB
do I need to read this?
Or can I just say why the frick?
Or can I just say why the frick?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:35 pm to street pizza
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do I need to read this?
Or can I just say why the frick?
I would do both, but that's up to you, you really don't need to do anything
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:40 pm to BGSB
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I would do both,
I don't have any popcorn.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:42 pm to street pizza
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I don't have any popcorn.
Go get some
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:45 pm to BGSB
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but the apostles weren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, He was forever correcting them, and even by the end of his life, they didn't get it.
Dude, you basically just said that your entire belief system is based on the writings of misinformed morons.
But ya gotta have faith-a faith-a faith!
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:48 pm to Hester Carries
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your entire belief system
My belief system?
Dunno where you got that, I am no bible thumper
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:49 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Yo GLT, im playing in a bball tourney tomorrow and might have a spot open up. want in?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:53 pm to BGSB
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My belief system? Dunno where you got that, I am no bible thumper
My bad. Must have confused you with another poster.
ETA: upon looking back at your posts it seems your belief system isn't based on anything but gobbledygook inside your own head.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I really love vagina. The taste, the feel, the smell if it's a good one. Love it.
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