Started By
Message

re: Assisted Suicide, why are people so against it?

Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:07 pm to
If someone wants to die, and they can reason why they should then let them...
If someone is sick and suffering, or maybe they are sick and they just don't want to suffer, then let them go.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68598 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

If someone wants to die, and they can reason why they should then let them...
If someone is sick and suffering, or maybe they are sick and they just don't want to suffer, then let them go.

If they have a painful terminal illness, yes. They should have the option. Outside of that, no it shouldn't be an option.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64785 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Posted by tduecen If someone wants to die, and they can reason why they should then let them... If someone is sick and suffering, or maybe they are sick and they just don't want to suffer, then let them go.


I agree 100%. If they want to die, let them go. But don't involve the state.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51386 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:12 pm to
People need to read up on the Oregon law and just see how heavily regulated it is.

People just can't ask for the suicide medicine. It is a really tough process that above all requires a terminal illness.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Outside of that, no it shouldn't be an option.
I think they should, is it selfish? Probably but many people just can not cope with certain things. Now maybe they should do the whole wait a year like divorce to see if it is really what someone wants rather than making a rash decision but still.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68598 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

I think they should, is it selfish? Probably but many people just can not cope with certain things. Now maybe they should do the whole wait a year like divorce to see if it is really what someone wants rather than making a rash decision but still.

State shouldn't be involved in any way unless it's a terminal illness IMO.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14997 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:13 pm to
Giving someone enough morphine (or similar) to die comfortably is fairly noncontroversial, and pain management is a major part of hospice care. Giving someone enough to end their life, though, has some valid points from each side. Firstly, the Hippocratic Oath starts with, "First, do no harm..."
Stopping a patient from breathing permanently could definitely be considered harm. On the other hand, allowing someone to suffer through their ultimate end from a tough, chronic illness could also be considered harm, mainly from an emotional/psychological standpoint. In the end, the vast majority of people fall somewhere in between the two, and the majority of hospice care is geared aggressive comfort measures. As to the bitter end of the patient with a particularly painful terminal illness and giving them enough of a medication with that it cuts their "life" short a few minutes/hours, at that point, I believe the majority of people fall on the side of believing that to be ethical. As to allowing terminally ill patients to elect to end their life before the suffering begins/peaks, I think it's just too controversial a subject to have a consensus opinion on, and the ethical debate of whether all life is worth living and has value comes into play. Again, there are rather valid points from both sides. I don't think they'll come together in those opinions, either.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:26 pm to
Because they are afraid they will abuse the privilege.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64785 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Posted by GetCocky11 People need to read up on the Oregon law and just see how heavily regulated it is. People just can't ask for the suicide medicine. It is a really tough process that above all requires a terminal illness.


It's not what the law says that's a problem, it's that the law exists in the first place. Like I said above, giving the state any say so in people dying for any reason other than being convicted of a capital offense is a terrible idea. This is a power we never should give the state. I'm sure the Oregon law is very logical and well laid out. But it sets a precedent that puts the state into a position to be involved in decisions it should never be involved in.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

You've never posted a logical thought on any subject that I've read on TD, yet you try so hard to be an insider.


I don't know you nor do I care to. I posted something logical right above here. If you want to discuss it, feel free. If you want to talk about each other's moms, let's just skip straight to that.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99258 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:42 pm to
Quite frankly if that's what they want to do then it really shouldn't be my business whether they do it. I don't have any problem with setting parameters for allowing it (i.e. Psych evaluation, multiple doctor's assessments, etc). But as far as morally, that's not my burden to carry.

I know if it was a family member that was suffering I'd want them to have that legal choice.
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:47 pm to
(no message)
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted by ALWho
Earth
Member since Oct 2014
612 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Ive always thought more people should try it.


My vote for "Excellent Post of the Year"
Posted by Sl4m
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
3717 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:01 pm to
.
This post was edited on 11/29/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:13 pm to
I must have hurt your feelings. Sorry about that. You can sit with me at lunch next week.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17096 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:13 pm to
People who support legislative measures against assisted suicide for the terminally ill, are disgusting human beings. It's hard to imagine someone would be that evil, but there are plenty of people out there that are.

If you don't support assisted suicide, fine, don't participate, but don't take that option away from someone who is suffering with a terminal illness.
Posted by ALWho
Earth
Member since Oct 2014
612 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:18 pm to
Assisted suicide is very easy, 18 wheeler, train, or go to a public place with a firearm and start waving it around, there will be "assistance" there soon. No reply needed, I know that I'm being a smart arse.

Besides the fact those actions are illegal, dangerous to others and will impact peoples lives, suicide alone is illegal. Nobody wants to see a person suffer through a terminal illness, but where do we/government draw the line?

Also, there seems to be a double standard imo if someone is on life support and has a living will to allow doctors to pull the plug isn't that almost the same, almost?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64785 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

People who support legislative measures against assisted suicide for the terminally ill, are disgusting human beings. It's hard to imagine someone would be that evil, but there are plenty of people out there that are.

If you don't support assisted suicide, fine, don't participate, but don't take that option away from someone who is suffering with a terminal illness.


You know folks off themselves literally daily without any "legislative measures", right?
Posted by dodgeviper
Bunkie
Member since Nov 2014
629 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:20 pm to
Those people just know better as to what's right for that individual than the individual him/herself.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17096 posts
Posted on 11/27/14 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

You know folks off themselves literally daily without any "legislative measures", right?

You know I said people who support denying assisted suicide via laws, right? If it were up to me, there would be no legislative means needed. If a terminally ill person needed help ending their lives, the person assisting would be immune to prosecution.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram