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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:03 am to Paul Allen
quote:Your cardiologist is one dumb mother fricker.
I've been a pack every 2 weeks or so "social smoker" for years now and cardiologist told me its ok. He said a true "smoker" is 7-10 smokes on average per day.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:38 am to skinny domino
There are studies that suggest it's dosage dependent, but as I said, that's looking at thousands and there are still cancer patients who would have fallen on the left side of the dosage graph.
Every carcinogen exposure could be the one that does it. You could never go into the sun unprotected but once and if you're unlucky enough that exposure could be all that's needed to damage that one cell that progresses to melanoma.
Every carcinogen exposure could be the one that does it. You could never go into the sun unprotected but once and if you're unlucky enough that exposure could be all that's needed to damage that one cell that progresses to melanoma.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:41 am to glassman
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Genetics play a very big part
yep... with all other diseases as well...
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:46 am to Hangover Haven
Genetics is the primary underlying factor, bar none. It's why folks in their 80's can still smoke outside at their respective nursing home and others drop dead at 40 while running marathons and eating kale.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:49 am to Paul Allen
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Genetics is the primary underlying factor, bar none. It's why folks in their 80's can still smoke outside at their respective nursing home and others drop dead at 40 while running marathons and eating kale.
Probably 80-90%
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:12 am to glassman
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Very true. Hope your dad is doing okay. Lung cancer is the "cause" of my dad's death, but radiation and chemo were the real killers. He was retired and playing golf 4 days a week, gets treatment and went from a vibrant 70 year old guy to a person who looked 90 and bitter. He told me he should have refused treatment and just let it take its course. It sucks, I miss him every day, but I'll never forget how a really healthy guy just withered away because of "medicine".
Thankfully docs these days really push palliative care. It's better for the patient and the family, in most cases.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:10 am to skinny domino
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Your cardiologist is one dumb mother fricker.
Yeah, I'm sure you are way more knowledgable than a cardiologist
People try to make smoking a black and white issue, but there is a massive difference in health risk between smoking 1 a day and smoking 25 a day.
It's like eating a Fast food meal once a month vs once a day. One will cause much more damage to your body.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:23 am to glassman
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The original chemo is derived from mustard gas, so yes they are. Radiation.. yep..
That is a strawman line of reasoning. Some of the toughest to treat cancers are being treated now with altered forms of what were once deadly viruses. So to assume or imply that because something derived from something bad that the treatment is essentially injecting someone with mustard gas. It isn't, and that's ridiculous.
And yes, cancer is an industry. But that's good. The promise of potential profits via a cure is what's driving the hundreds of millions of dollars in investments in new molecules and therapies. Do you think that a company that produces a drug that cures cancer or significantly prolongs survival should derive no benefit? Is so, what is the impetus to attempt to develop them?
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:27 am to stout
Good news, man.
I will keep him in my prayers.
I will keep him in my prayers.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:30 am to glassman
Kent with the micronite filter was a killer. damn filter was carcinogenic
From 1952 to 1956, Lorillard sold nearly 11.7 billion Kent Micronite cigarettes in the United States, all constructed with asbestos filters.
killed my father.
From 1952 to 1956, Lorillard sold nearly 11.7 billion Kent Micronite cigarettes in the United States, all constructed with asbestos filters.
killed my father.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 12:48 pm to TheIndulger
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People try to make smoking a black and white issue, but there is a massive difference in health risk between smoking 1 a day and smoking 25 a day.
It's like eating a Fast food meal once a month vs once a day. One will cause much more damage to your body.
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