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Army dudes: M-1A2 question
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:08 pm
So I'm having a ridiculous debate about who would win in a fight between a tank (type unspecified) and a crowd armed only with molotov cocktails.
I've sat in an M-1A2 before, but can someone give me an experienced rundown of its various (unclassified) capabilities and why people with bottles of gasoline would all be completely fricked?
I've sat in an M-1A2 before, but can someone give me an experienced rundown of its various (unclassified) capabilities and why people with bottles of gasoline would all be completely fricked?
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:10 pm to blueboy
How close is the crown to the tank when hostilities break out?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:11 pm to blueboy
Paging Vader
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:11 pm to blueboy
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a crowd armed only with molotov cocktails.
How big, and how committed, is the crowd?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:13 pm to blueboy
If tank is fully loaded , crowd hasn't got a chance
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:14 pm to wickowick
Doesn't that version have the machine gun that can be remotely fired?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:15 pm to blueboy
I'm guessing a fully crewed tank?
My money is on the tank.
My money is on the tank.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:15 pm to wickowick
quote:Unspecified, but they'd have to be pretty close to be within throwing distance.
How close is the crown to the tank when hostilities break out?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:16 pm to blueboy
Crowd wins.
Look up the winter war.
Hell, look up the Ukrainian protesters
Look up the winter war.
Hell, look up the Ukrainian protesters
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:17 pm to Phil A Sheo
vs
hmmmm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:18 pm to CaptainsWafer
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My money is on the tank.
Correct M1 can hit a target while on the move from a mile out.. Tank wins
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:18 pm to gmrkr5
But it would be versus dozens of them
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:19 pm to blueboy
The US does not operate like third world Muslim militaries. Armor will accompanied by lighter armored vehicles and infantry. In reality the Molotov throwing nut jobs would be killed pretty quickly.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:19 pm to Phil A Sheo
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Correct M1 can hit a target while on the move from a mile out.. Tank wins
What if the target is on top of the turret?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:19 pm to fr33manator
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But it would be versus dozens of them
and?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:20 pm to CadesCove
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What if the target is on top of the turret?
Drive the damn tank through a building problem solved..
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:20 pm to blueboy
Too close for missiles, I'm switching to guns.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:20 pm to CadesCove
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What if the target is on top of the turret?
he would be on fire apparently
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:21 pm to gmrkr5
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he would be on fire apparently
..or this smokem if you got um
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 1:22 pm to blueboy
They could disable the tank if they hit it in the right places. But even here they'd be hard pressed to hit it in the right places so long as the tank kept moving. Basically if they did hit it in the right places, it would be what we use to call a "mobility kill" in that they could render it immobile but the tank would still be capable of defending itself.
As for killing the crew inside? No. So long as their ammo held up they could continue to mow people down. Here is a look at the weapons on an M1A2....
You've got the main gun (120mm smooth bore cannon), coax 7.62 MG mounted next to the main gun (it's the small tube sticking out just right of the main gun), the commander has a .50 MG and the loader also has a 7.62 MG. Of all these weapons systems, only the loader's MG requires a hatch be opened to fire. All the other weapons can be fired from inside the tank with all hatches buttoned up. The TC's .50 does require the ammo box be changed once he's exhausted his ammo and that also requires a hatch be opened. But the main gun and the coax MG have a shite ton ammo internally and could cut down theoretically thousands before all ammo is exhausted.
As for killing the crew inside? No. So long as their ammo held up they could continue to mow people down. Here is a look at the weapons on an M1A2....
You've got the main gun (120mm smooth bore cannon), coax 7.62 MG mounted next to the main gun (it's the small tube sticking out just right of the main gun), the commander has a .50 MG and the loader also has a 7.62 MG. Of all these weapons systems, only the loader's MG requires a hatch be opened to fire. All the other weapons can be fired from inside the tank with all hatches buttoned up. The TC's .50 does require the ammo box be changed once he's exhausted his ammo and that also requires a hatch be opened. But the main gun and the coax MG have a shite ton ammo internally and could cut down theoretically thousands before all ammo is exhausted.
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