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re: Arizona professor's jaywalking arrest quickly gets out of hand

Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:58 am to
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No, dumbass, I was speaking to all the "I would tell the cops to frick off" crowd in here.
Oh, then don't quote me, smarty pants.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:00 pm to
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You want to make a law against running with scissors?


I am really only a fan of laws that protect infringement upon your rights by others. I believe jaywalking laws do this, to a degree, in large cities. Imagine how long traffic would be delayed in NYC if people were allowed to jaywalk everywhere. In my opinion jaywalking, in that instance, would interfere with the rights of others.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I haven't watched the video yet but in many places - including Phoenix and Tucson - crosswalks can sometimes be 1 mile apart.


That's very true. However, walking parallel to the sidewalk is not the same as crossing the street.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:03 pm to
Why does everyone keep mentioning NYC? This happened in Tempe, AZ during a summer night on a College Campus with an interaction by two campus employees.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Why not do that before demanding she show him ID?


He could have done that and it likely would have been prudent. I only got one side of the story and didn't watch the video. if there was one. Perhaps he did that.

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Is he ordered under law to automatically demand a citizen show him their ID?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
58872 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:06 pm to
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I am really only a fan of laws that protect infringement upon your rights by others. I believe jaywalking laws do this, to a degree, in large cities. Imagine how long traffic would be delayed in NYC if people were allowed to jaywalk everywhere. In my opinion jaywalking, in that instance, would interfere with the rights of others.


Infringement on the lives of others is also a big one. A jaywalker can also cause other lives to be lost in an attempt to avoid the idiot who walks in front of traffic, causing driver to swerve and hit someone else either on foot or in another car.

It does affect the lives of others.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Why not do that before demanding she show him ID?


He could have done that and it likely would have been prudent. I only got one side of the story and didn't watch the video. if there was one. Perhaps he did that.

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Is he ordered under law to automatically demand a citizen show him their ID?


Nope. If she was detained by him for breaking the law she would be required to produce ID upon request.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Then say, "Hey, mam, will you kindly get out of the road so as to not obstruct traffic?" But if police did that, they would lose the tax collection racket.

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Why is it that every time a black person gets involved in any type of issue it because the other side is racist. I just don't get it. It's time to end the bullshite and just be people. Not black. Not white. Not brown. Grow up America.

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Every once in a while situations like these arise when both parties are unreasonable and things get out of hand quickly.

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don't kick an officer. You can't go around acting like a child.

and this
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18902 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:10 pm to
Did anyone else catch one of the last lines in the news story?

The English Department is demanding a review to determine if "racial profiling" was involved?

Are you kidding me? All parties involved, her-the officer-the University, need to STFU and be embarrassed that this is national news.
Posted by ipodking
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Member since Jun 2008
56294 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:13 pm to
If people would just do what cops ask them to and stop bitching about "rights" then none of this bullshite would happen. She got what she deserved .
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:14 pm to
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If people would just do what cops ask them to


Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:25 pm to
I also want to add that CNN has edited the video several times now.

At first it started at the beginning of the altercation, now the video starts by showing the woman being thrown to the ground.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:25 pm to
Good for her. Dumb woman.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I also want to add that CNN has edited the video several times now.


Classic no spin journalism.

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now the video starts by showing the woman being thrown to the ground.


Well if they reported pesky insignificant things like facts, truths, and eyewitness testimony how would they sell the fear and ignorance they get paid to spread?
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:35 pm to
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I haven't watched the video yet but in many places - including Phoenix and Tucson - crosswalks can sometimes be 1 mile apart. Maybe they need more crosswalks not more jaywalking but until then it's almost a necessity for many.

They're usually like that, but from the video provided she's in an area with a ton of crosswalks. And there are a ton of things that don't go in her favor (I biked this area 100's of times).

Dot is where I presume she is pulled over. Lines represent crosswalks. Where she is, there is a light rail line, two hedges on both sides of the light rail, one way streets on both sides of the light rail, and crosswalks galore. If she's walking in the middle of the street, she's either literally in the middle of a street walking in traffic or against traffic. There's no median to walk in unless you're playing stupid games for stupid prizes against 6 ton light rail trains on the train tracks. Police officer probably had good suspicions to think she may be drunk or something, so... Provide ID. Her fault IMO.
Posted by lsudude24
Boulder, CO
Member since Sep 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:40 pm to
I wonder if Obama will invite the officer and professor over to the White House rose garden for a beer to talk this out.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70249 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:49 pm to
Based on her hairstyle, walking in the middle of the road and kicking the cop are just more instances in a pattern of poor decision making. Such intervention was probably necessary.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:54 pm to
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I wonder if Obama will invite the officer and professor over to the White House rose garden for a beer to talk this out.


Beer Summit: Part Deux
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58872 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:03 pm to
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I also want to add that CNN has edited the video several times now. At first it started at the beginning of the altercation, now the video starts by showing the woman being thrown to the ground.


The MSM wants to paint their own picture? Shocking...
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Jaywalking itself is a bullshite law.


Not in DC. People used to cross against the light all the time, blocking the already terrible traffic. Until the police started writing jaywalking tickets.
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