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Are student loans (for undergrads) trashy?

Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13665 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm
Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.

I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
Posted by Parade Grounds
BR,LA
Member since Jun 2017
863 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:31 pm to
It’s not trashy, it’s just potentially very stupid
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:33 pm to
Trashy is the wrong word.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Are student loans (for undergrads) trashy?


Spoken just like a guy that has "nice jeans" and no college degree.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:33 pm to
I would imagine that economic events in this century likely wiped out a lot of student loan savings accounts for middle class families.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:35 pm to
Well considering the cost of school has risen much faster than income, I understand parents not being able to afford to send their children to college.

You use to get 4 years for 10-12k not you are looking at 25-30k
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97663 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:36 pm to
I’m planning to fund my kids college by saving money when they’re young. My parents did the same for me.


I wouldn’t call it trashy but poor planning on the parents part
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Ric Flair

Wrestling is trashy.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4098 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:38 pm to
Pretty much all posts with the word trashy in the subject are trashy.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65804 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:38 pm to

It's all a house of cards. Much like other leveraged facets of our so-called economy, it will come crashing down. We're a bought on credit broke arse smoke and mirrors nation if there ever was one.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39032 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:39 pm to
My boy goes into 6th next year. I have a couple of years saved up, but damn I went to LSU for 8 years. I need to step it up.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48642 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:42 pm to
I was fortunate enough to have parents that paid for mine. Granted LSU was like $1200 per semester when I went. My dad had 3 of us in college at the same time.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3495 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to
I paid over $ 2500.00 a month for grammar and high school and ( well over $200,000.00 ) and paid partial college for all my kids. In college they borrowed the difference so they would have skin in the game. It teaches them responsibility.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34791 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to
It’s trashy for bs degrees. But for some it’s the only way they can pay for school. Loans for a good degree is worth it
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20911 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.


Nothing teaches adulthood like giving money to a college aged kid.

Believe it or not some people pay their own way through.

That said taking out loans for an engineering, science, accounting, or finance degree isnt dumb.
Posted by Potcove
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
10 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:44 pm to
I disagree. My parents divorced when my 3 siblings and myself were young. I was 1 year before TOPS started. Neither could afford my tuition even at $1,999.00 for my last semester in 2004. Trashy is assuming that you understand everyone’s situation. I make enough to pay my monthly payment especially at 2% interest.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13665 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:44 pm to
So if the market downturn killed their savings, why can’t they have a frank conversion with their kids saying “we can’t afford tuition at xyz college, go to abc college (would say junior college, but they aren’t that prominent in LA), then transfer to the bigger public school.

My parents told me “we can’t afford it” growing up.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

It's all a house of cards. Much like other leveraged facets of our so-called economy, it will come crashing down. We're a bought on credit broke arse smoke and mirrors nation if there ever was one.





And as long as parents keep saving $100k in college funds and kids keep taking out $100k in college loans nothing will ever change.

We have almost reached the point where going to community college for 2 years and then transferring to a state school is the smart/responsible/forward thinking route.

Parents spending or kids borrowing $100k for a worthless undergrad degree is trashy as frick.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97663 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

I was 1 year before TOPS started. Neither could afford my tuition even at $1,999.00 for my last semester in 2004.

Damn how long were you in college?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72136 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Back in the day, most middle class kids had parents pay for college with college savings, or at least had a plan with the kid to combine the amount of savings and job kid got in college to pay for college.

Back in the day, you could pay for college with a job.

That is completely out of the question now.
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I understand loans for grad school and professional school, but racking up significant amount of student loan debt as an undergrad seems like a significant lack of foresight and judgement from both parents and students, and is therefore trashy.
College is expensive as frick and even schools like LSU cost upwards of $120,000 for 4 years.

Imagine having more than one child.

Destroy all government loan programs and you’ll fix the problem.
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