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re: Archdiocese of N.O. dropping the hammer on schools

Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Why? It makes sense to get everyone on the same page. Never understood why some schools were 7-12, some were 8-12, and some were 9-12. You go to K-7 then High School or go to k-12. Simplifies and unifies the Archdiocese.


The Archdiocese is already having trouble keeping boys in the elementary schools. I can't imagine how CBS and HC adding K-4 will help St. Pius, St. Dominic, St. Catherine, etc
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:23 pm to
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The Archdiocese is already having trouble keeping boys in the elementary schools. I can't imagine how CBS and HC adding K-4 will help St. Pius, St. Dominic, St. Catherine, etc



They'll have a much better handle on their enrollment numbers. And it will sort itself out.

Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:23 pm to
seems like a good idea to me.

Isn't being hierarchical a big part of the RC Church?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:48 pm to
From my understanding, Holy Cross would still be run the same, it would just no longer be part of the Archdiocese of N.O.

Holy Cross also seperates its middle school from the high school.

As a graduate of HC, I wish they would tell the Archdiocese to kiss their arse, but as always, they will be pressured and comply.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:50 pm to
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The Archdiocese is already having trouble keeping boys in the elementary schools.

This has always been true though.

I agree with the policy as a whole; they really should cut out an exception for Christian Brothers though.
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:52 pm to
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From my understanding, Holy Cross would still be run the same, it would just no longer be part of the Archdiocese of N.O.

Holy Cross also seperates its middle school from the high school.

As a graduate of HC, I wish they would tell the Archdiocese to kiss their arse, but as always, they will be pressured and comply.


As a graduate of HC, I feel the same way. I doubt DiGange is going to fight the Archdiocese on this though.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:53 pm to
Bit they mentioned "catholic identity." Their rules can't change that.

Are all local catholic schools under the archdiocese or are some run only by their order?

HC has had 5th grade for at least 40 years, they should be grandfathered under the rule.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Are all local catholic schools under the archdiocese



Yes.

This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:59 pm to
No. Bm is not under the archdiocese. They just comply with everything the archdiocese does.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:00 pm to
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No. Bm is not under the archdiocese. They just comply with everything the archdiocese does.



False

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Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:03 pm to
As a graduate of HC, I can confirm this.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:04 pm to
isnt HC K-12?
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:07 pm to
5-12
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:14 pm to


It was an issue with more kids moving on to high schools with 7th and 8th grades. It was hurting the elementary neighborhood based school who had a 7th and 8th grade program.

That was the problem. Then some stupid administrative type(s) in the Archdiocese made a boneheaded decision. It does not appear to be well through out. Those types also REFUSE to reconsider, rethink, or modify their decision.

What will probably happen in the long-term is an overall reduction in the Archdiocese student population. There will be a shift to public school since some won't have that 7th or 8th grade option at the preferred school. Once these students leave the Archdiocese system, most won't come back and will matriculate to the public high school system.

Again, I don't think these decision was well thought out nor given a broad enough time frame to complete.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:20 pm to
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its ridiculous for 6th/7th graders to be in the same buildings as jr/sr. it was taking a toll on the catholic grammar schools in the area as most were leaving


Meh, the parents of these 6th ad 7th graders made a choice to leave the elementary school for Jesuit, BM, and HC. Obviously, the elementary schools aren't on the same level.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:21 pm to
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What's the better middle school alternative, in your view, though?


The other option is to keep the child in grammar school until 8th grade. I am not saying CBS is a bad school now it is just not the same school it was in the past. There is no longer any corporal punishment. I know it sounds crazy but it was funny as hell to piss of the brothers to the point that they chased you around trying to whip your arse.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7135 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:32 pm to
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quote:
No. Bm is not under the archdiocese. They just comply with everything the archdiocese does.

False



Brothers of the Scared Heart serve the people of its area with the blessing and permission of the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese can revoke its permission at any time. However, Brother Martin could continue to operate its school, but it would be outside of the Archdiocese. PR nightmare for all involved.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:40 pm to
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However, Brother Martin could continue to operate its school, but it would be outside of the Archdiocese


BM is a major cause of this ruling as nobody was complaining when it was just HC and CBS. Once BM entered the mix there were no boys left in the grade schools.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:42 pm to
Maybe the Catholics ought to stick with Mackerel snapping and let teachers teach?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:43 pm to
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There will be a shift to public school since some won't have that 7th or 8th grade option at the preferred school.


yea this aint happening in new orleans/metairie
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