re: Anybody in Ellick have an update on the LC student strike?

Let's try to keep the thread on topic. LC's problem isn't Calvinism, despite white Aguillard and his enablers want everyone to think.

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Aguillard and his enablers

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Blows my mind that he still has -any- "enablers" at this point. Dude would have been run off the LSU campus on a rail, tarred and feathered, after ONE year of his shenanigans.

Why is he still at LC?

Someone needs to post the video of Ed Young Jr. going off on Calvinist/God in a box. Saw it on YouTube a while back. . Basically a shot at Matt Chandler. Funny stuff. If I lived in Dallas, I'd much prefer Chandler to Young as my pastor.

Wow! This is a sad situation to say the least. I have good friends who graduated from LC and have always had a great deal of respect for the school. I hope the current situation can be fixed before the school is destroyed!

Scruffy has a buddy who went there. He will ask if he knows anything and report back.

The school will be fine. The Calvinists are about to go under for the last time.

And Calvinism has its claws in far more areas of our nation than LC. Calvinism was the backbone of slavery, and other poor economic decisions

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The debates over social welfare and other domestic social policies in America today are shaped by three religious currents within Protestantism. These theological views are seldom discussed openly, yet they play a powerful role in determining federal and state public policies.

* Calvinist/Free Market: based on changing individual social behavior through punishment.

* Evangelical/Revivalist: based on born again conversion in changing individual behavior.

* Liberal/Progressive: based on systems and institutions to change individual behavior on a collective basis over time.

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Predestination of the Elect was too elitist and static a brand of Christianity for a new society that claimed to be a classless society and valued individuality and initiative in the quest to conquer the frontier. The ideas of spiritual growth, and equality before God, started a public discussion about the need for the government to provide for public schools. It also planted the seeds for the anti-slavery movement.

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Calvinists believe that God selects who should prosper so slaves are destined to be, schools are not needed for the masses, and their should be few regulations that would limit Gods chosen from prospering

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The Unitarians took the idea of transforming society and changing personal behavior popularized by the First Great Awakening and shifted it into a plan for weaving a social safety net under the auspices of the secular government.

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We now have a secular, liberal govt as a direct result of Calvins who would not care for their fellow man (as directed by Jesus) because their circumstances were predestined by God, so there was no purpose in helping them

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Calvinists also believe that "God's divine providence [has] selected, elected, and predestined certain people to restore humanity and reconcile it with its Creator." These "Elect" were originally thought to be the only people going to Heaven. To the Calvinists, material success and wealth was a sign that you were one of the Elect, and thus were favored by God. Who better to shepherd a society populated by God's wayward children? The poor, the weak, the infirm? God was punishing them for their sins.

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Calvinism is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. It was the philosophy of the "scribes and Pharisees", who "shut up the kingdom of heaven against men ", and who Jesus railed the hardest against

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Max Weber's Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, links the rise of Calvinism to the needs of budding capitalists to judge their own economic success as a sign of their preordained salvation.

The rising popularity of Calvinism coincided with the consolidation of the capitalist economic system. Calvinists justified their accumulation of wealth, even at the expense of others, on the grounds that they were somehow destined to prosper.

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The problem with trolls of this nature is that you often can't tell if they're trolling or really this willfully ignorant
I'm gonna give him the benefit

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While that may have described Calvinists in in 1850's

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You folks need to see the world for what it is. Calvinism hasnt changed since the 1500s

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One of the Churches which openly supported apartheid and racism was the Dutch Reformed church of South Africa . Calvinsim gave the necessary basis for the Church's racist agenda. How a Church could ever support any form of discrimination is still surprising. But the support for the Apartheid policies came from Calvinism's view of the world and not from Christ. "The history of the Dutch settlers (later to become the Afrikaners), bound to their strong Calvinistic beliefs, became the cornerstone of white South African history in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries."

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Calvinism failed miserably to lead the Christians who were hanging on to it to love their neighbours as they would themselves , which was the command of Christ. It was the cold shoulder shown by Calvinists in South Africa to Mahatma Gandhi which led to his ultimate rejection of Christianity.

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Calvinism over the years has been found to cause divisions. Social justice issues like racial segregation and race relations were neglected or worse resisted by Calvinism and it's preachers.

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Who is causing the division at LC? Those who sought out "moderate Calvinists" money to dictate the direction of the divinity school. Who also used school funds to purchase recording devices, yet 'blew the whistle' on the president for his purchases. Pot meet kettle

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If Aguillard remains president there will be no LC in 10 years.

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Except it won't take ten years...

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You know nothing of Calvinist people. I have Calvinist friends and while I disagree with their doctrine they truly love God and love others as well.

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Me? I am just linking comments from people that have dealt with Calvinists in power. And yes, its about power and not Christian principles

The 'chosen' have done abominations in Gods name, because the unfortunate 'deserved it', otherwise they would also have been chosen. "After all, they will spend eternity in Hell, anything I do to them is not even close to that"

My biggest problem with Calvinists is this, they see the Bible through the eyes of "pet theologians" instead of reading it for themselves. Also, they read the theological works of men far more than the Bible.

The people I know that went to LC confirm this. They rarely cracked open the Bible, but spent untold number of hours studying what other men determined God was saying