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Any OT member a part of a union?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:43 pm
What is a union like? Heard job stability is amazing and you get a guarantee raise even if you suck. Is that true?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:44 pm to fareplay
I'm sure there are plenty. Lots of tradesmen and teachers are in unions.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:44 pm to fareplay
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Heard job stability is amazing and you get a guarantee raise even if you suck.
I'm sure we got some teachers here
shitty arse teachers who know they can't be fired
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:45 pm to fareplay
I am represented by one, but I will never pay dues.
Yeah, but you are also limited in the raises you get. It a shitty system that props up the lazy workers and holds back the actual performers.
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Heard job stability is amazing and you get a guarantee raise even if you suck. Is that true?
Yeah, but you are also limited in the raises you get. It a shitty system that props up the lazy workers and holds back the actual performers.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:45 pm to fareplay
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What is a union like?
Communism
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:47 pm to JetsetNuggs
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What is a union like?
Communism
yep
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:47 pm to Pecker
Looking into working for a job that is unionized. I mean 100% job security seems worth it on the modern era of automation and outsourcing
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:48 pm to fareplay
used to be a member of the UAW. Never needed them but, i know i saw them save several jobs. many undeserving.
2 guys actually got in a fist fight, they fired the guy who started it but not the 2nd guy.
a year and a half later the union got the fired guy reinstated with back pay
2 guys actually got in a fist fight, they fired the guy who started it but not the 2nd guy.
a year and a half later the union got the fired guy reinstated with back pay
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:59 pm to fareplay
Been thinking about this myself. Is anyone in Local 198 in the Baton Rouge area?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:02 pm to fareplay
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What is a union like?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:05 pm to WPBTiger
Unions were neccessary 100 years ago when they were fighting for basic worker's rights. Once those goals were accomplished in the mid 50's, they morphed into the useless shitstains they are today.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:17 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Unions were neccessary 100 years ago when they were fighting for basic worker's rights.
I'd say "more necessary than now". And still important up until the demise of the "company town".
They're mostly relevant today if you're in a line of work where there's only one or two employers in your area.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:45 pm to foshizzle
It's obvious after reading the responses here, that most are young and uninformed. There is no 100% job security in any job. Union jobs included. You still can get fired and most do for drug offenses. The best part of being in a union is that it keeps the established rules in place. All arse kissing and back stabbing go out the door. Do you still get a raise even if you suck? Yes but that's the company's fault for hiring your lazy arse in the first place. Good workers usually don't need the union but every once in a while you'll come across a situation where you are glad you did. Any employee who gets union representation but doesn't pay dues is considered a scab by the membership. Don't turn your back dude and don't expect people to have yours. Unions established work conditions such as pay scales, safety standards, vacation time, holiday pay etc. Do you think that companies just give this shite to employees because they feel like being nice? NOT. Other companies who are not union have to follow suit and even pay a little more to keep unions out and not lose workers. Be glad unions are there and have been there. Job conditions would be a whole lot different had they not. Lose them and standards will fall to the cost cutting companies.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:48 pm to foshizzle
My union story: I worked in corporate for a company that acquired a unionized smaller company. The unionized company had truck drivers that were not allowed to leave the cab to do any work. They couldnt use a forklift, hand trucks, or even disconnect the trailer from their truck. If the trailer-disconnector-jockey wasnt there, the truck driver sat idle, being paid (California gets daily OT). We had so many late shipments and having to pay truck drivers overnight because of this. Absolute insanity.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:51 pm to Popths
Lol, piss off with that propaganda bullshite.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:56 pm to fareplay
In my time working in unions...
5-8 people fired that needed to be
5-8 people that needed to be fired that fought with the union to not be
2 people fired that shouldn't have been
If you are a truly shitty worker it will eventually get you.
I have seen many non-union workers skate by with the same companies. It is a company culture issue and not necessarily a union issue.
If you work for a union and are a good employee just look as your dues as an insurance policy. If nothing else, you get to go in front of management and tell them to go frick themselves one last time.
Any time someone has threatened to "call the union" on me I welcome it. I'm not an full a-hole that demands the unexpected. Some people I work with are, and in those situations need to be checked. HR has solved a lot if issues, but there is still a need for unions, even though HR departments have neutered them. Then HR departments cry that unions are hard to deal with.
5-8 people fired that needed to be
5-8 people that needed to be fired that fought with the union to not be
2 people fired that shouldn't have been
If you are a truly shitty worker it will eventually get you.
I have seen many non-union workers skate by with the same companies. It is a company culture issue and not necessarily a union issue.
If you work for a union and are a good employee just look as your dues as an insurance policy. If nothing else, you get to go in front of management and tell them to go frick themselves one last time.
Any time someone has threatened to "call the union" on me I welcome it. I'm not an full a-hole that demands the unexpected. Some people I work with are, and in those situations need to be checked. HR has solved a lot if issues, but there is still a need for unions, even though HR departments have neutered them. Then HR departments cry that unions are hard to deal with.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:56 pm to fareplay
I get a raise no matter how hard I work....
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:57 pm to fareplay
The Last Word on Broadway
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The stagehands’ strike is about protecting featherbedding.
Stefan Kanfer
November 26, 2007
In Booth Tarkington’s 1916 novel Seventeen, a little girl gets admonished for using “damn” when she quotes a neighbor. Brightening, she substitutes “word” for the forbidden expression: “He talked like this, mama: he said ‘I’ll be word if I can stand it!’ An’ he kept getting crosser, an’ he said, ‘Word! Word! WORD!’”
Hard as it is to believe, such niceties persist today. Take the term “featherbedding,” a pejorative that Webster’s defines as “the requiring of an employer usually under a union rule . . . to hire more employees than are needed.” The current strike by Local One of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees—stagehands—is about just such a practice.
When the members of Local One walked off their jobs, Broadway essentially went dark. The League of American Theaters and Producers refused to buckle, presenting its side to the public on the local TV station New York One. Richard Frankel, general manager of Young Frankenstein, spoke for his colleagues: “There are several ways that the featherbedding manifests itself. We cannot hire the number of men we [producers] need, we have to hire the number of men [the union tells] us to hire.”
Local One president James J. Claffey, Jr. responded furiously. As the producers “continue to say featherbedding and they keep [saying] basically that we’re thieves,” he thundered, “we’re not going back to the table with that lack of respect. We can’t negotiate under those circumstances.”
Mayor Bloomberg’s offers to mediate were welcomed by the league but spurned by the union. Now only one course remains. This disagreement is evidently not a matter of money, it’s a matter of language. Ergo, producers should henceforth cease to use “featherbed,” “featherbedded,” or “featherbedding” in public statements. They might say instead that Local One ought to end its policy of “wording.” They could point out that shows have had to word since Tarkington’s era, using employees who do exactly nothing for their wages—wages that add up to a six-figure annual salary for many union members.
With malice aforethought, the union timed the stoppage to hit during the weeks before Christmas, when the city attracts legions of tourists with disposable income. Accordingly, the strike didn’t just affect theaters. Since it began three weeks ago, restaurant and hotel workers have seen their own incomes and tips plunge. Ironically, years ago their unions agreed not to word, and none is the worse for it. Only Broadway persists in this archaic practice. It’s well past time to get the word out.
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