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re: Any OT member a part of a union?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:59 pm to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:59 pm to Tigeralum2008
You have no idea what you are talking about.....
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:00 pm to fareplay
Unions are great until the company the union works for can no longer compete with global competition. Go through the mid-West and North East and look at all the shuttered Automobile, wiring and stamping plants. Those guys made bank until GM, Ford, and Chrysler figured out they could save hundreds of dollars on a wiring harness, transmission or car hood made in Mexico where workers made a fraction of the money a union worker in Ohio was making.
Packard Electric is a case study on how global markets killed the companies and thus the IUE. Union security and janitors were making $40.00/ hour in 2006. Once Packard went bankrupt they re-hired 200 of the 1000 member workforce at 1/4 their previous pay, with a major drop in benefits.
Packard Electric is a case study on how global markets killed the companies and thus the IUE. Union security and janitors were making $40.00/ hour in 2006. Once Packard went bankrupt they re-hired 200 of the 1000 member workforce at 1/4 their previous pay, with a major drop in benefits.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:01 pm to NC17
Right now they have the gambling and the unions, and they're the best things to have
But narcotics is the thing of the future
But narcotics is the thing of the future
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:01 pm to fareplay
The anti union sentiment on this site is hilarious
Fact is unions are great for the middle class and blue collar workers
Fact is unions are great for the middle class and blue collar workers
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:02 pm to Kafka
quote:
Right now they have the gambling and the unions, and they're the best things to have
But narcotics is the thing of the future
Infamita...
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
A lot of people just believe what their Daddy told them to believe.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:03 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:For auto workers in Detroit in 1965, maybe
Fact is unions are great for the middle class and blue collar workers
for office workers in today's America, not so much
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:05 pm to Kafka
Office workers aren't being told to work 18-20 hour days for multiple days in a row outside doing manual labor......
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:12 pm to fareplay
Unions are great for those that suck at what the do and have little marketable skill.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:14 pm to fareplay
Never had a desire to be in a union and limit myself to a certain wage structure or benefits. It has worked out just fine for me.
So no.
So no.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:19 pm to fareplay
I represent a number of construction trades and can make something of a case for them in terms of ensuring safety and a decent pension for the guys with a ready, skilled workforce for the employers. Not quite as much in residential construction, though. Public unions are weird to me.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:27 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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Go through the mid-West and North East and look at all the shuttered Automobile, wiring and stamping plants. Those guys made bank until GM, Ford, and Chrysler figured out they could save hundreds of dollars on a wiring harness, transmission or car hood made in Mexico where workers made a fraction of the money a union worker in Ohio was making.
Agree 100%. We should be taxing the shite out of the incoming goods.
The argument you are making is that we should lower the standard for worker pay and conditions to compete with cheap goods from other countries. Not try to elevate the competition.
The companies making stuff overseas and bringing finished goods in are setting the market. They make way more profit playing the game while Americans are being asked to make more for less.
We should be putting America first.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:37 pm to fareplay
4 guys watching. 1 guy working g.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:20 pm to fareplay
If you need a union in this economy you must be lazy af
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:32 pm to Cracker
If you need flood insurance you must be in an area that always floods
-BR Residents in July 2016
-BR Residents in July 2016
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I represent a number of construction trades and can make something of a case for them in terms of ensuring safety and a decent pension for the guys with a ready, skilled workforce
Constuction trades are one area they still make sense, particularly for journeymen.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:38 pm to fareplay
Nah baw we all confederates here
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:39 pm to Pecker
As far as teachers go, Pecker, your statement has everything to do with tenure and nothing to do with union membership. I joined the union simply for liability protection.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:47 pm to High C
35 years as USW member in two different jobs. Went thru 3 company buy outs. The union helped as the selling point every time.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:11 pm to Kafka
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But narcotics is the thing of the future
I want to control it as a business.
I don't want it near schools and I don't want it sold to children.
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