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Another college merger/closure thread, but this time with evidence that it can work

Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18059 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:56 am
Georgia Southern and Armstrong Atlantic State are merging in the great state of Georgia. This is after Kennesaw and Southern Poly have merged and Georgia State and Georgia Perimeter have merged. The state of Georgia has had enough.

This is akin to UNO and Southeastern or La Tech and Monroe. This writer isn't happy about it, but its happening.

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Although it has been officially labeled a consolidation, the University System of Georgia (USG) Board of Regents (BOR) ruled that the new school would be called Georgia Southern University, and would be headed by Georgia Southern President Jaimie L. Hebert. So, it would be a de facto takeover.

These consolidations matter. They have massive effects on athletic departments. Jobs at various athletic departments across the state have evaporated over the past decade. The whole point of consolidation is to cut costs. The Georgia State, Kennesaw State, and Georgia Southern consolidations are the biggest to date. If you look at it from a business perspective, it’s not hard to see the how addition of Armstrong State’s campus in Savannah would benefit Georgia Southern. But not without costing a few good people their jobs.

The Armstrong merger announcement meant it was Georgia Southern’s turn on the BOR’s consolidation carousel. Georgia State and Kennesaw State already had larger enrollment and were closer to Atlanta than Georgia Southern before consolidation. Now the gap was widening. Armstrong State has roughly 7,000 students, ~6,300 undergraduates, ~700 post-graduates. It’s a further expansion into the heart of Georgia Southern’s most important local media market. This was a huge win for the University from a strategic level.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:58 am to
If a lot of smaller schools don't merge, they'll have to close. Obviously the author doesn't understand economics.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68460 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:59 am to
This is a good move especially since gsu has a doctorate in public health and aasu has a dpt program. Statesboro and savannah aren't bad places

I know this since I used to live in the area and was accepted into GSU's dph program
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18059 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:00 am to
I agree. But Armstrong had 7000 students - that's not exactly a small school.

For example, four of Mississippi's eight public colleges have less than 7000 students, and one has just over 8000. We have a problem here, but you Louisiana baws have a big problem.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:01 am to
racism;DR
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:01 am to
quote:

that's not exactly a small school

Well I said "smaller" not small.

I think you'll see a ton more of this.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14403 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:02 am to
On this board, the closers think 10,000 is small enough to close.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95366 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:20 am to
Define "students" in some cases.

Certain schools are basically an avenue to live off student loans and Pell grants with education, let alone graduation, not under consideration.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1024 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:29 am to
Combing LA's two state college systems into one would be a great start. Upper education is a racket considering the population LA has
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11298 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

four of Mississippi's eight public


Damn I wish we only had eight.
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
837 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 12:08 pm to
The "problem" is that to many of these communities these colleges/universities are economic engines- hiring employees themselves and also being the anchor for goods/services geared towards the students. So no legislator is going to vote to remove that economic engine from his/her constituency.

In the long run I wonder if the current college/university structure can hold out; ever increasing tuition costs and students living permanently near/at that site. Surely technological advances will reduce this need and affect this model.

How awesome would it be if professors were free agents and you could choose experts in the classes you were really interested in- I am in my 40s but how about taking Econ classes from Milton Friedman and WWII classes from Stephen Ambrose?
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