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re: Another " Am I being detained " cop video but this time officer loses his cool

Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:00 am to
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:00 am to
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How dare he observe a public servant at work. From a public road. While not breaking any laws. "Obstructing!" We must give the police absolute deference and privacy. They do the same for us, right? Right?


he was circling

He was asking questions versus answering them

had a female also enticing the officer "What did he do wrong?"

the officer answered " You're being a distraction"

If you sit still no issue.. keep roaming around, that's not exactly normal behavior from by standers

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:01 am to
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The cop has a right to search based on reasonable suspicion. Did you miss that part or do you just not like it?

Right to search? What are you on about? He didn't have a right to stop.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:02 am to
I have no problem with expecting a cop to do his job professionally and legally and holding them accountable if they dont.

This douche in the video was just antagonizing the cop hoping to get a reaction.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31935 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:02 am to
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No offense, but people like you are the worst


Why? Because I don't mind when cops use reasonable suspicion when patrolling?

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14724 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:04 am to
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so the point here is that this young adult is just trying to ruffle jimmies and that's just not cool in my book. It's blatant disrespect.


When you get to carry a gun, arrest people, are trained on the law, and your job is to protect and serve, your "jimmies" as everyone loves to say can't get russled to that degree.

If the cop was in the private sector or worked at the DMV everyone would saying how unacceptable it is. Being a cop does not give you special privileges when someone pushes your buttons.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:06 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:05 am to
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he was circling


quote:

He was asking questions versus answering them


quote:

the officer answered " You're being a distraction"


You statist always surprise.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:05 am to
If you were working in your yard and some cop kept circling around (or anyone for that matter) and videotaping, you'd get a little suspicious too. As a matter of fact...if it was a civilian doing it many people would call the cops
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31935 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:06 am to
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He didn't have a right to stop.


Reasonable Suspicion - A police officer may briefly detain a person, without a warrant, if the officer has reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in a crime (Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)), and the officer can use reasonable force to effect the detention. Courts have recognized that an officer's safety is paramount and have allowed for a "frisk" of the outermost garments from head to toe if the officer reasonably suspects that the detainee is armed, and for an officer to stop an individual at gunpoint if necessary. In the city of New York, once a person is released from a reasonable suspicion stop, a "stop, question and frisk report" is filled out and filed with the command in which the stop occurs.

Circling the scene is more than enough suspicion...

Its ok that you disagree with it, that's your opinion. I agree that the cop should have kept his cool and did a poor job handling the situation. But he had every right to stop and question the guy.

Im not paranoid like the rest of yall
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:07 am to
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If the cop was in the private sector or worked at the DMV everyone would saying how unacceptable it is


Not if someone followed them around, watched them from a distance, circled them continuously. Everyone would say its acceptable to ask the person wtf their problem is.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84068 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:08 am to
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And some will argue that cops violate peoples rights far too often.


I sure hope you aren't implying this one of those times. Some douchebag with a video camera out with the intention of getting this exact reaction isn't just some random person getting their rights shite on.

I'm all for having my rights, but I also will not go out intentionally looking to start shite with a cop for no reason other than to post it online. That douche probably thinks he's an intellectual, but he's just a dumbass.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:09 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:08 am to
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If you were working in your yard and some cop kept circling around (or anyone for that matter) and videotaping, you'd get a little suspicious too.

I would. I'd also have zero recourse. I'm not an OT baller. I wouldn't wave him down, scream at him, and throw a bitchfit.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:11 am to
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It's just not cool
Cops aren't around to enforce "not cool" activities, fwiw.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
4709 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:16 am to
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This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:18 am to
I have no problems with what the kid is doing. It IS a dick move, only because it makes people uncomfortable. And it should. The same way police have used their power to abuse situations, they need to be reeled back in to doing their job and following the law.

The bottom line, like it or not, is this cop was abusing his powers by doing whatever the frick he wanted. But in return, he thinks it's ok when a cop follows a car doing nothing illegal until they forget to use a blinked and stop them using it as an excuse to ask them questions.
Cops are here for situations where a law was broken. They aren't here to stop people illegally and interrogate them simply because they are mad.
What do all you think would have happened without a video that night. That fat pig would have abused his power and arrested an innocent man and LIED to make a charge stick.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31935 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:20 am to
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They aren't here to stop people illegally and interrogate them simply because they are mad.


It wasn't an illegal stop.


Quit being paranoid. Not everyone is out to get you.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:21 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16558 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:24 am to
No, you couldn't.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19685 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:24 am to
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Not if someone followed them around, watched them from a distance, circled them continuously.


Kind of like cops do?

quote:

Everyone would say its acceptable to ask the person wtf their problem is.


Not really, following me to work or something I doubt I'd pay any attention to it, but following me to my home is a different story altogether.

quote:

I have no problems with what the kid is doing. It IS a dick move, only because it makes people uncomfortable. And it should. The same way police have used their power to abuse situations, they need to be reeled back in to doing their job and following the law.


100% agree.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:25 am to
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The cop has a right to search based on reasonable suspicion. Did you miss that part or do you just not like it?


I don't think that situation you described was reasonable in the least bit.

quote:

And I have no reason to dispute an officer wanting to ask me a few questions. Im a law abiding citizen.


I feel no obligation to tell the law my business. I'd prefer that other people stay out of my affairs.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84068 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:25 am to
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I have no problems with what the kid is doing


Well that tells me a lot about you.

quote:

But in return, he thinks it's ok when a cop follows a car doing nothing illegal until they forget to use a blinked and stop them using it as an excuse to ask them questions.


Not using a blinker is illegal, so you can't really say they did "nothing illegal." And you can whine about profiling all you want, profiling works. And I say this as someone with a north African last name, so I've had my fair share.

quote:

What do all you think would have happened without a video that night


Nothing because the little douchebag wouldn't have been doing it without a video camera.

quote:

That fat pig would have abused his power and arrested an innocent man and LIED to make a charge stick.


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:26 am to
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What a little prick. Sounds like he was purposely following the cops to get pulled over. Yeah, not illegal, but why troll on cops? What is the guy getting out of this? Just some sense of smugness because he felt like he outwitted a cop?

That's exactly what he did. He does it for a living. ALL the local police know him. That's what made Porky's response so idiotic. You saw how his partner called him by his first name, and handled it. If Butterbean can't handle that stress, I question his ability to handle a badge and a gun. You can't scream and throw shite when you work at Waffle House, but it's ok for a cop? And for the record, I've worked in much more stressful environments, and that wasn't acceptable there.
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