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re: Amtrak is a heavily-subsidized rail service with Russian quality at Swiss prices

Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:54 am to
Posted by paddys pub
Sunny Philly
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:54 am to
The cost of rail is what keeps it away. No rail service in the world makes money, they are all subsidized by the government. Amtrak operates on the rail owned by the railroad companies and have no control over it, the railroads only wanted 1 company to deal with, at hence amtrak.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63254 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:58 am to
What's not to like about a mode of transportation that takes 36 hours to get somewhere, including several 3am connections, and costs as much if not more than a flight?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79160 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:02 pm to
There is an Amtrak station near us in Atlanta. It's not cheap, it's not good, it's not fast. So why do people take it (mostly minorities, here)?

Scared of flying? Goes to cities not well serviced by air?
Posted by JordonfortheJ
Bavaria-Germany
Member since Mar 2012
14547 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:03 pm to
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I remember researching prices for a trip and it was more expensive than flying, which makes no sense


That is usually correct and it takes much longer depending on the journey. Took 24 hours from Tuscaloosa to NYC. Unless Amtrak starts buying tracks from someone and putting up some high speed rails it really doesnt make sense for long distance compared to flying, and the only reason I took the train was because someone was scared of flying. shouldve let their arse ride that train by themselves.
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73143 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:08 pm to
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A weekend round-trip from D.C. to New York, on trains leaving at a reasonable hour (e.g., not in the middle of the night) will run you about twice that much, or $0.98 per mile
except when you factor in that driving there is 100x worse

Amtrak is worth it to avoid traffic, tolls, paying for gas, and being unable to do things like go to the bathroom, eat, drink, etc
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8236 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:13 pm to
Wife and son were on a train this Tuesday, coming to Slidell from Atlanta. Train hit a truck in Georgia, driver of truck was not hurt, then had an unscheduled stop. Arrival time was supposed to be 6 and they ended up in Slidell at 8:30.
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
3893 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:15 pm to
Everyone should do it once for the experience. Some places are scenic and you may not see them otherwise. There's a route along the northern border that I'd like to do with the kids. It's goes to Glacier National Park. Supposed to be breathtaking.

It isn't for everyone especially if you are on a strict schedule. It is my understanding that the Amtrak trains do not have the right of way of the railroad so if a business or commercial trail is coming through, Amtrak has to yield and pull over while the "real train" does their business on the main line, Loading and unloading etc. So it's a lot of sit and wait.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14724 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Amtrak operates on the rail owned by the railroad companies and have no control over it, the railroads only wanted 1 company to deal with, at hence amtrak.


Here is the problem passenger rail is a very very very distant second to the freight that runs on those lines. Until there are tracks dedicated to passenger travel or Amtrak gets some kind of priority it will never change.

Not to mention the car and airline industry will lobby heavily against any attempt to make train travel truly useful outside of the north east or California.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:20 pm to
I've ridden the West Coast Surfliner tons of times. It's the tits.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10044 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:27 pm to
Anyone ever heard of the auto train?

I-95 is pretty much an awful experience, end to end.

https://www.amtrak.com/auto-train
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 2:15 am
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Not to mention the car and airline industry will lobby heavily against any attempt to make train travel truly useful outside of the north east or California.


Bingo. While other countries spent their transportation money more evenly between airports, highways, and rail the US has done very little with rail. Even though our highway infrastructure is crumbling and can't seem to keep up in many areas with population growth we still refuse to put money into alternative forms of transportation.

It reminds me of a conversation I had with a coworker several years ago.

"I would take the bus but don't because it doesn't go where I need to go."
"So we need to expand the system then."
"Why would we expand it when no body uses it?"

Replace bus with passenger rail and it sums it up perfectly. It won't get better until we make it better.
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