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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:19 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:19 pm to AwesomeSauce
So she was sexually active, OK
Still doesn't absolve them of leaving her for dead.
Still doesn't absolve them of leaving her for dead.
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:20 pm to AwesomeSauce
She didn't have it coming but if this was going to end the way it did she couldn't have picked a finer group of young scholars
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:21 pm to danilo
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This is relevant?
If this evidence gets in, the prosecution's physical evidence becomes severely lacking. No DNA. Reasonable explanation for the injuries.
You're down to unreliable witness testimony from a co-Defendant who will likely take the 5th (especially since they charged him for video voyeurism).
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:22 pm to Indefatigable
How do you begin to prove such a thing? How do you prove it was the day before? How do you prove it is the reason behind rape like injuries? This is ridiculous.
These guys clearly took advantage of her state of mind for some reason and then just dumped her. Wasn't one of the suspects involved in another rape case? LINK
These guys clearly took advantage of her state of mind for some reason and then just dumped her. Wasn't one of the suspects involved in another rape case? LINK
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:24 pm to beauchristopher
so if she had rough sex the day before, then the thug POS are no longer capable of raping her, with cell video as evidence?
OK.
OK.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:24 pm to beauchristopher
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How do you begin to prove such a thing? How do you prove it was the day before? How do you prove it is the reason behind rape like injuries? This is ridiculous.
All you need is to provide “reasonable doubt.”
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:24 pm to beauchristopher
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How do you begin to prove such a thing? How do you prove it was the day before?
Again, I'm guessing, but...her text history.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:26 pm to Sasquatch Smash
One guy stating he had sex with her doesn't seem like enough to buy. I am interested in how he will prove that.
Text messages?
Text messages?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:27 pm to Ingeniero
quote:Will be interesting to watch people who defended Kobe using this exact same approach change 180
Your honor, my client could not have raped her; she had sex the day before! And Chewbacca is from the planet Kashyyk!"
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:27 pm to AwesomeSauce
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They are trying to defame her character in an attempt to get a hung jury. There have been posters on here in the various threads basically saying she got what she deserved by partying and having premarital sex outside of this incident. That it "caught up to her". This is a classic case of "she was asking for it" defense.
I don't even necessarily disagree that she probably didn't make the best decisions and unfortunately she's a cautionary tale that hopefully other young women can learn from. I'm glad Reggies got shut down, I was wondering how they've been able to get away with being what they were for so long even going back to when I was an LSU student. But that doesn't mean she's not a victim of a crime, nor did she "deserve" it.
If you leave your house or car unlocked and you get robbed, yeah there were precautions you could have taken that you chose not to or forgot to do, but that doesn't mean you "deserve" to get robbed or that you are no longer a victim, and if the thief gets caught they should be punished. Just like these guys got caught, it's on video, they should be punished.
College students have sex. That doesn't mean they can't be rape victims the day after. I don't see how this detail is relevant. She was so drunk she was on video leaving the bar barely able to stand by herself. Even if any injuries happened from a consensual encounter the previous day there's no way she could have consented to the act that happened in the car with video evidence.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:27 pm to bushwacker
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then the thug POS are no longer capable of raping her
She was voluntarily hanging out with these guys
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:28 pm to bushwacker
quote:No, he is still capable of raping her
so if she had rough sex the day before, then the thug POS are no longer capable of raping her, with cell video as evidence? OK.
But the trauma can’t be used as evidence against him IF it can actually be linked to a prior encounter
Some of y’all are way too emotional here. What if there is texts etc that link the anal sex/tears to an encounter from the previous night? That’s absolutely noteworthy
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ouch. I did not know there was a lack of DNA.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, I'm guessing, but...her text history.
That's what I am wondering.
However, weren't these suspects on video talking about it?
Also,
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Carver told deputies, according to the affidavit, that after sex, Carter exited the vehicle and Washington re-entered the vehicle. That’s when Carver said Washington had sex with Brooks. Carver said Brooks consented to sex with both men, but admitted that she was too impaired to give proper consent, the affidavit states.
So one of them already admitted to sex.
Yet his original reason was.
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According to arrest documents, Carver said that he noticed Brooks was drunk, and that she was unable to find her friends. He told deputies that he did not want to leave her alone, and he offered her a ride home.
Yet they knew her state and had sex with her and also left her alone?
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Records say from Jan. 15, 2023 through Jan. 16, 2023, Carver allegedly used an image recording device to “view, photography or video tape” Brooks’ private areas without her permission.
Plus, records show the videoing was allegedly used for “lewd or lascivious purpose” and/or shared with other individuals without Brooks’ consent.
So they were clearly taking advantage of her. Nothing about being concerned leaving her alone.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:29 pm to beauchristopher
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How do you begin to prove such a thing? How do you prove it was the day before? How do you prove it is the reason behind rape like injuries? This is ridiculous.
It’s not intended to prove anything. It’s to raise reasonable doubt and undermine the evidence of sexual trauma to the extent the prosecution is using it or used it to get the arrest warrants.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:30 pm to KiwiHead
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Ouch. I did not know there was a lack of DNA.
Yeah
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Laboratory reports and autopsy results obtained by the WBRZ Investigative Unit on Wednesday show that DNA from none of the four men arrested after the death of Madison Brooks was found inside the LSU student, and her blood alcohol content was 12 percent lower than what had initially been reported.
Genetic material from one of the accused men, Kaivon Washington, was found in Brooks' genital area, but there was no sign of vaginal trauma. The autopsy did not say whether the DNA was found in semen, bodily fluids or epithelial cells.
An abrasion and bruising on Brooks' back side prompted a forensic pathologist conducting the autopsy to note it was "highly suspicious for a sexual assault," but the separate lab report said there was insufficient male DNA present and no indication of when an assault might have occurred.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:32 pm to lsupride87
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Some of y’all are way too emotional here. What if there is texts etc that link the anal sex/tears to an encounter from the previous night? That’s absolutely noteworthy
there is video of these thugs raping her while she was too drunk to consent. injuries from the day before are irrelevent- IF they can be proven that is.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:32 pm to beauchristopher
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However, weren't these suspects on video talking about it?
The one who didn't participate in the actual act did.
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So one of them already admitted to sex.
Carver didn't have sex with her.
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Yet they knew her state and had sex with her and also left her alone?
Again, Carver didn't have sex with her.
Also, there are rumblings there is a video of her calling him the f-word for not having sex with her.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
The prosecution doesn’t have significant DNA from the suspects. If the defense can bring in evidence the vaginal/or anal injuries are linked elsewhere it’s extremely relevant.
People are far too emotionally wrapped up here
People are far too emotionally wrapped up here
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:35 pm to SirWinston
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