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Albion's Seed: The Borderer's & The South
Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:53 am
Pretty much nails why the South is like it is... Long but worthy read.. Nails Virginian's too..
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INTERESTING BORDERER FACTS:
1. Colonial opinion on the Borderers differed within a very narrow range: one Pennsylvanian writer called them “the scum of two nations”, another Anglican clergyman called them “the scum of the universe”.
2. Some Borderers tried to come to America as indentured servants, but after Virginian planters got some experience with Borderers they refused to accept any more.
3. The Borderers were mostly Presbyterians, and their arrival en masse started a race among the established American denominations to convert them. This was mostly unsuccessful; Anglican preacher Charles Woodmason, an important source for information about the early Borderers, said that during his missionary activity the Borderers “disrupted his service, rioted while he preached, started a pack of dogs fighting outside the church, loosed his horse, stole his church key, refused him food and shelter, and gave two barrels of whiskey to his congregation before a service of communion”.
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INTERESTING BORDERER FACTS:
1. Colonial opinion on the Borderers differed within a very narrow range: one Pennsylvanian writer called them “the scum of two nations”, another Anglican clergyman called them “the scum of the universe”.
2. Some Borderers tried to come to America as indentured servants, but after Virginian planters got some experience with Borderers they refused to accept any more.
3. The Borderers were mostly Presbyterians, and their arrival en masse started a race among the established American denominations to convert them. This was mostly unsuccessful; Anglican preacher Charles Woodmason, an important source for information about the early Borderers, said that during his missionary activity the Borderers “disrupted his service, rioted while he preached, started a pack of dogs fighting outside the church, loosed his horse, stole his church key, refused him food and shelter, and gave two barrels of whiskey to his congregation before a service of communion”.
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:01 am to PerCuriam
I love reading about this stuff. Have you read American Nations by Colin Woodward?
Most people don't realize the Deep South was settled by a lot of planters from Barbados, Jamaica, and (in Louisiana) Cuba and St. Domingue (what would become known as Haiti). Not all people right off the boat from Europe.
Most people don't realize the Deep South was settled by a lot of planters from Barbados, Jamaica, and (in Louisiana) Cuba and St. Domingue (what would become known as Haiti). Not all people right off the boat from Europe.
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:02 am to PerCuriam
SSC's review was a good read, don't think I'll be reading the actual 900 pages though
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:05 am to LSUTigersVCURams
I have not but am of Scots-Irish-Austrian/German descent i.e. "full blown genetic anglican redneck"
V.O.Key translated this phenomenon as "friends and neighbors voting patterns" Richard Viguerie turned it into the Reagan Democrats and Christian Republican movement...
And the Democrats continued their echo chamber of stupidity ever since but really conceded this base with Great Society in 64-66/LBJ...
V.O.Key translated this phenomenon as "friends and neighbors voting patterns" Richard Viguerie turned it into the Reagan Democrats and Christian Republican movement...
And the Democrats continued their echo chamber of stupidity ever since but really conceded this base with Great Society in 64-66/LBJ...
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:07 am to 90proofprofessional
Same here, analysis paralysis...somehow nicholson and the shining comes to mind when I think about reading 900 pages of anything...
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:28 pm to PerCuriam
very interesting
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:05 pm to PerCuriam
quote:
“The backcountry folk bragged that one interior county of North Carolina had so little ‘larnin’ that the only literate inhabitant was elected ‘county reader'” 8. The Borderer accent contained English, Scottish, and Irish elements, and is (uncoincidentally) very similar to the typical “country western singer” accent of today.
Beautiful
Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:25 pm to PerCuriam
My surname is from the border region of Scotland. Grew up in a town with a Presbyterian university that has a bagpipe marching band and holds a Scottish festival every year. Hey, we're not that bad 
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