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Alabama workers say Turner Industries fired them over Confederate Flag on cars
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:19 pm
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The Confederate Battle Flag may have cost two men their jobs. They claim they were fired from Turner Industries this week for refusing to remove the flag from their vehicles.
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Phillip Sims told the TV station he doesn’t normally drive to work with the flag on his truck, but he was running late on Monday, and didn’t take the time to remove it. That’s when a a supervisor at the Decatur, Ala., plant told him to remove the flag or be fired. He said he refused to remove it, on principle, and was fired.
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There are claims Turner Industries fired another employee on Tuesday for the same reason. That employee asked not to be identified.
Sims says all this goes beyond the flag, all the way to his First Amendment right of free speech. “It’s a statement of our heritage and it’s just my right to have it and I don’t think that I should just give it up because somebody told me I had to,” says Sims.
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:21 pm to ForeverLSU02
I don't think this is grounds for firing someone, unless he was driving a company vehicle with the flag on it.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:21 pm to ForeverLSU02
You're a victim for opposing the flag, you're a victim for supporting the flag. Everybody gets to be a victim, yay!!!
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:21 pm to ForeverLSU02
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“It’s a statement of our heritage and it’s just my right to have it and I don’t think that I should just give it up because somebody told me I had to,” says Sims.
I don't agree with firing him over it, but congrats on losing your job over something so dumb, you showed them.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:21 pm to ForeverLSU02
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That employee asked not to be identified.
Of course not....
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:22 pm to ForeverLSU02
Private company. Don't care.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:23 pm to Not Cooper
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I don't think this is grounds for firing someone, unless he was driving a company vehicle with the flag on it.
Just spitballing here. Would the company be off the hook if another employee complained that the flag offended them?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:24 pm to BilJ
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“It’s a statement of our heritage and it’s just my right to have it and I don’t think that I should just give it up because somebody told me I had to,” says Sims.
Thats the problem with these idiots...They don't understand that no one is trying to take it away from them.
As an employee of a company....you're a representative of that company.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:24 pm to BilJ
The day when people realize there's more important tHints to concern themselves over cant get here soon enough.
This shite is nauseating.
I hope the sue the frick outa turner and win.
This shite is nauseating.
I hope the sue the frick outa turner and win.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:25 pm to Scruffy
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Private company. Don't care.
This.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:25 pm to craigbiggio
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Just spitballing here. Would the company be off the hook if another employee complained that the flag offended them?
The company isn't on the hook to begin with. The company didn't want that flag flying in their parking lot and gave him the ultimatum. His choice of not taking the flag down was basically his resignation.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:25 pm to BilJ
quote:well the company might settle out of court for a big settlement check. so it might benefit him.......might.
I don't agree with firing him over it, but congrats on losing your job over something so dumb, you showed them.
Guess not.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:25 pm to pankReb
quote:Yep
The company isn't on the hook to begin with. The company didn't want that flag flying in their parking lot and gave him the ultimatum. His choice of not taking the flag down was basically his resignation.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:26 pm to Makinbacon
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I hope the sue the frick outa turner and win.
hope in one hand....shite in the other...
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:27 pm to Makinbacon
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I hope the sue the frick outa turner and win.
You don't feel Turner should be able to control what is displayed on Turner property?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:27 pm to ForeverLSU02
Oh well, sucks for them. There is zero issue with the decision.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:27 pm to Makinbacon
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The day when people realize there's more important tHints to concern themselves over cant get here soon enough.
Then why not just take the flags down while you are at work?
More important things right...
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I hope the sue the frick outa turner and win.
They can try but they won't win.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:27 pm to pankReb
If the guys vehicle in question here is a co vehicle I agree.
If not and it was their private personal vehicle, F them.
If not and it was their private personal vehicle, F them.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:27 pm to ForeverLSU02
quote:The guy absolutely has the right to freedom of speech, but that does not mean there aren't repercussions.
Sims says all this goes beyond the flag, all the way to his First Amendment right of free speech. “It’s a statement of our heritage and it’s just my right to have it and I don’t think that I should just give it up because somebody told me I had to,” says Sims.
What he does not understand is that by flying that flag on Turner's property, he is actually speaking for the company without their consent. He is on private property which does not belong to him.
If the company fired him for flying the flag at his home...that would be a different issue.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:28 pm to CarRamrod
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well the company might settle out of court for a big settlement check. so it might benefit him.......might.
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