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Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:11 pm to saintforlife1
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William “Roddie” Bryan Jr
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:13 pm to Klark Kent
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not at the time of this specific incident.
you don’t get to play judge, jury, and executioner
Yes yes we know and I agree.
But this is the predictable outcome when people get tired of being theft victims and law enforcement can’t or won’t stop it.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Seems excessive for the guy following with a camera. I doubt he had bad intentions. Most people don’t want to film a murder they are about to commit.
Artery had tried to leave the scene of the confrontation, the guy filming blocked his escape with his truck, that made him a active participant.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:17 pm to dgnx6
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You dont get caught on camera five times with shite missing from said place and your not the one thats stealing shite.
There was zero evidence Arbery took anything. several other people were also caught on video in the same house does that make them guilty also?
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:20 pm to EA6B
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Artery had tried to leave the scene of the confrontation, the guy filming blocked his escape with his truck, that made him a active participant.
If I remember the video correctly, the guy filming him used his vehicle to kind of herd Arbery
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:30 pm to saintforlife1
This story felt like the movie Surviving the Game.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:43 pm to saintforlife1
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In Georgia, those serving life sentences for serious violent crimes such as murder are not considered for parole until they have served 30 years.
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52-year-old Bryan.
Pretty much a life sentence
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:47 pm to EA6B
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Artery had tried to leave the scene of the confrontation, the guy filming blocked his escape with his truck, that made him a active participant.
I’m just saying for a “racist criminal justice system” I see much more serious crimes go unpunished everyday.
For instance, I remember a thread a few months ago where an upstanding young gentleman punched an elderly woman in the face on bourbon street, she fell and hit her head and died.
He got something like 3-5 years for manslaughter.
Seems like you could say he was an active participant in a murder
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:50 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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He got something like 3-5 years for manslaughter.
It’s a new day. Black privledge now.
You have a Rittenhouse killing two white guys and the media still tried their hardest to make them black….
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:52 pm to saintforlife1
Wish DAs would be this strict when blacks shoot each other
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:56 pm to saintforlife1
Good. frick those guys.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Seems excessive for the guy following with a camera. I doubt he had bad intentions. Most people don’t want to film a murder they are about to commit.
Apparently he did more than just film the action. He had to have aided the murder somehow.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:17 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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He got something like 3-5 years for manslaughter.
Seems like you could say he was an active participant in a murder
I don’t know all of the circumstances, but if he intended to harm the victim he should have been convicted of something more serious.
I wouldn’t use this example to reduce the sentences of other violent criminals.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:17 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Seems excessive for the guy following with a camera. I doubt he had bad intentions. Most people don’t want to film a murder they are about to commit.
He blocked the guy in, and didn't try to intervene. I don't care how good of friends I am with someone, zero chance I go chasing a person I've never actually seen rob a place I don't own, and I definitely intervene when a gun needlessly comes out.
Had the camera guy not blocked him in, and actively tried to keep the situation from escalating, he wouldn't be rotting in prison.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:19 pm to Townedrunkard
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Black privledge now
This has existed in NOLA since the late 1960s
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:27 pm to saintforlife1
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which saw no arrests until more than two months after Arbery’s death. The three men were charged only after a cellphone video of the event went viral, thrusting the killing into the national spotlight
I remember this really pissing me off. Should—or could—that D.A. face charges of surprising this to allegedly protect the elder McMichael who they had a prior relationship with?
I got really invested in this case, because it happened during quarantine and I had nothing to do but study all the Georgia statutes relevant. I felt like I got a mini law degree as much as I read about this. It was pretty straight forward:
1) Aubrey died as a result of a homicide (not murder yet)
2) The homicide happened while another felony(ies) were in progress. It was either aggravated assault or false imprisonment or both, making Aubrey’s death a felony murder.
3) False imprisonment occurs when a person (who doesn't have legal authority or justification) intentionally restrains another person's ability to move freely. So the only way what they did was not false imprisonment would have been if they had 1st hand knowledge of Aubrey committing a felony, which they did not. He may have stolen shite from that neighborhood 10 times. If one of those times wasn’t that day, then they, by definition, couldn’t have had 1st hand knowledge of a felony that was not in the process of being committed, so—irrelevant. He may have come back from murdering a entire family, but if they didn’t have 1st hand knowledge of it, they couldn’t not perform a citizen’s arrest, which would, again by default, make it false imprisonment and aggravated assault—both felonies—making it felony murder.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:41 pm to saintforlife1
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Travis McMichael, now 35, was also convicted of malice murder, which requires intent to kill,
I don’t agree with this tack on. I don’t think he ever had intent to kill, but even if he did, I’m not sure that could have been proven. But, according to Georgia’s statute, intent does not have to be present for felony murder to have been committed. HOWEVER, I do think it should be considered in sentencing, and that, since it’s 30 years minimum, they should all be eligible for the possibility of parole. Dad and neighbor probably won’t make it, and I’ve got no problem with Travis getting paroled at 65 at the earliest if whoever makes those decisions determine he fits the criteria for being paroled.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:43 pm to dgnx6
I thought whites got away with this stuff daily in racist America? This can't be true.
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