re: Advocate article on heroin use

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Had a BR friend overdose a few weeks ago. Affluent white guy who was in a frat and only 23.....it's everywhere

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Jesus..

I know a guy that developed an addiction to OC, which spiraled into an addiction to heroin when he couldn't afford to keep getting the OCs. That's actually more common that I thought.

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No it's not. That's exactly what has happened. Do you think the article is FOS and that the cracking down on prescription pain killers and the rise in Heroin use are just a coincidence?

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I'm saying they have nothing to do with one another. I'm sure there are some who went from legit pain meds to heroin. But like I said above, I have both friends and family who are complete heroin junkies. I know guys and girls I went to school with who are junkies. And of all the junkies I know of, not a one of them started using any drug for any other reason than to get high. And to be completely honest, the first drug most, if not all, tried was pot. And before you say I'm being anti-pot, if you'll look back to the first page you'll I'm in favor of legalizing pot.

But let's not kid ourselves. While some people may go from pain meds their doctors gave them to heroin, they are just a drop in the bucket to the others who get hooked on heroin just because they needed a better high.

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This is America. People should have the freedom to live a meaningless/drug fueled life as a heroin addict.

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Exactly, why is it our duty to help everyone? If some bozo wants to do heroin, and refuses to quit, let him live his life. People tend to make other people's problems, their problems.

If you don't want to die from heroin, don't do it

If you don't want your kid to do it, educate and regulate them.

If some worthless frick you don't know wants to get a fix under I-10, who gives a shite!

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Had a BR friend overdose a few weeks ago. Affluent white guy who was in a frat and only 23.....it's everywhere

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One of my closest friends. miss him so much.

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Exactly, why is it our duty to help everyone? If some bozo wants to do heroin, and refuses to quit, let him live his life. People tend to make other people's problems, their problems.

If you don't want to die from heroin, don't do it

If you don't want your kid to do it, educate and regulate them.

If some worthless frick you don't know wants to get a fix under I-10, who gives a shite!

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You will probably give a shite if that worthless frick under I-10 is your sister or brother.

Looking back at my time at lsu 2008-2012, I have to admit there was a copious amount of drugs being moved around.

You know its bad when you are so desensitized that walking into an apartment with pills and lines of coke everywhere is no big surprise.

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I'm sure his family and friends would prefer if everyone stopped talking about the situation on a public forum. I knew him too and miss him very much but this isnt the medium to discuss it

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Not to be flippant, but this seems like exactly the forum to discuss it. No one has mentioned his name or anything, and these discussions help people. I agree that posting his frat or trying to identify him is unnecessary, but discussing a real life incident is valuable.

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There's the same stupid arse logic you always see. Prisons don't do shite to deter drugs

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Well, he is talking about harsher sentences for dealers. I think this is fairly reasonable. The dealers are likely not the ones using the drug, so putting them in rehab won't do anything. If the sentence is worse they would be less inclined to sell the drug.

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It's the cracking down on oxy that has directly led to the rise in heroin use

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Well yes that's the short term result which needs to be combated with more treatment options. But in the longterm less and less people will make the jump IMO

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Are you just dumb to this subject or not?

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Read my posts in this thread. I know a number of people, friends, family, and acquaintances who are junkies.

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Of course people that use pain medicine recreationally turn to heroin as it is a similar high with opiates.

I know this first hand with family and it is an epidemic.

The high from heroin is the next step up from intravenous use of pain medication.

It still amazes me the amount of people you would never know that are addicted to pain pills. Its very saddening actually.

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And I said there are some who start out with real pain meds from a real doctor and a real prescription. But they are the minority. The majority of people who start with pills and move to heroin never had a real need for the pills to begin with, much less a prescription from a doctor. Instead they start on pills to get fricked up.

A good friend of mine from Jr High is a great example. We use to go to his house after practice every day. His mom worked evenings so we had the place to ourselves. We started by sneaking some of her vodka. Then we found someone who would buy our own. We were just 14 and having a good time. Next we found a source to score some pot. So now we started getting stoned. That was the extent of it for me and most of the rest of out group. But not this one guy. He always wanted more and better. He moved from pot to coke, from coke to pills, from pills to heroin. While we were graduating HS, he was kicked out of his mom's house and crashing wherever he could for a day or two and doing whatever he needed to get his next fix. Not once did he ever take a pill for any other reason to get fricked up. And he's just one typical example.