re: ACT scores are horse sh*t

Posted by Ryan3232

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:22 am to mattytiger123

imo, ACT tests intelligence whereas your GPA is more work ethic then anything.

This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 12:23 am

Posted by mattytiger123

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:22 am to oilmanNO

I'm not running away brah

Posted by boom roasted

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:23 am to mattytiger123

ACT scores don't mean shite when it comes to making money.

Posted by frankreynolds

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:24 am to twoboots

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Shave your beard and enjoy your career at chick-fil-a

Funny you say this, but I worked at Chickfila in high school and this little trust fund douche told me this exact thing. Never forgot that and it motivated me like crazy to be better. Today, he's in and out of rehab and I'm in med school. Insignificant little comment, but it pissed me off to the point of making sure I succeeded.

This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 12:26 am

Posted by Jcorye1

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:25 am to mattytiger123

You didn't get a 31, don't lie to the group.

Posted by mattytiger123

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:26 am to Jcorye1

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Sorry you or your kid didn't do as well as they should have. Take some time and either teach yourself or your kid some standardized test techniques.

I took my act like 7 years ago. I'm in grad school with no children

Posted by ell_13

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:26 am to MoreOrLes

Friend of mine's son made a 22 as a 7th grader. He's not here to brag so I will. That's awesome.

Posted by buckeye_vol

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:28 am to mattytiger123

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In regards to how smart someone is coming out of highschool.

That is all

I mean the SAT probably more closely resembles an IQ test while the ACT more closely resembles an achievement test. Regardless they are valid and reliable measures, and they are undoubtedly highly correlated with intelligence. So you are incorrect.

This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 12:30 am

Posted by mattytiger123

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:30 am to Jcorye1

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You didn't get a 31

Yes I did bro
Reading- 34
English- 31
Science- 29
Math- 28

This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 12:32 am

Posted by jeff5891

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:30 am to Epic Cajun

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ETA: it's a better IQ barometer than GPA for damn sure

ACT, SAT, GRE are some of the worst IQ indicators

Its an efficiency exam.

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Posted by SammyTiger

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:30 am to mattytiger123

with a few exceptions for people who just lose their shite when it comes time to take a test, the smart people i know did very well on the ACT, the dumb people didn't.

Posted by buckeye_vol

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:32 am to mattytiger123

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No, but I was a huge dumbass in highschool. fricked around and graduated with a 2.8 GPA. Got a 31 on my act. There were people so much smarter than me that got below a 25 just because they weren't good test takers. The reason I posted about it is because my cousin has a 4.0 and is in the honors class at his highschool, but won't get many scholarships because he's got a 22 on his ACT. He's studied hard but just can't get it done. He needs a 27 to get the scholarships he needs to go to the college he wants. He's always been a bad test taker but is a lot smarter and driven than I was at his age. I just feel for him brah.

Great anecdotes. They still represent the exception. Not to mention, you seem to be basing "smartness" on your own subjective evaluation, which is surely less accurate than the ACT.

Posted by ManBearTiger

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:34 am to Walking the Earth

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Maybe not accurate as to how "smart" they are but pretty accurate as to how prepared they are coming out of high school.

Exact opposite imo.

These tests are a good measure for aptitude, but don't really give any indication for how well a student is prepared to succeed in a classroom.

I scored a 33 and I did not have a stellar college career.

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Posted by buckeye_vol

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:34 am to jeff5891

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ACT, SAT, GRE are some of the worst IQ indicators

You are completely incorrect. They load well on G (general intelligence). In other words, they are good indicators of IQ.

This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 12:40 am

Posted by Jim Rockford

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Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:35 am to mattytiger123

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No, but I was a huge dumbass in highschool. fricked around and graduated with a 2.8 GPA. Got a 31 on my act. There were people so much smarter than me that got below a 25 just because they weren't good test takers. The reason I posted about it is because my cousin has a 4.0 and is in the honors class at his highschool, but won't get many scholarships because he's got a 22 on his ACT. He's studied hard but just can't get it done. He needs a 27 to get the scholarships he needs to go to the college he wants. He's always been a bad test taker but is a lot smarter and driven than I was at his age. I just feel for him brah.

There are colleges, including some elite schools, that minimize the impact of test scores, or don't use them at all. He should do some research.