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AC unit's fan won't turn off

Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:41 am
We had a power outage overnight and since the power came back on, the fan won't turn off on the AC. I have the unit turned off at the thermostat, and I've even flipped breakers off/on. Solution?
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13245 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:42 am to
Call an AC guy or replace your thermostat.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:43 am to
I'm jealous. Love the sound of the AC fan
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I have the unit turned off at the thermostat, and I've even flipped breakers off/on. Solution?


you obviously didn't flip the right one...
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:52 am to
My bet is a bad transformer,sorry.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:55 am to
If all other operations are normal with the exception of the continuous fan and the evap motor is not ECM (variable speed) the fan relay on the AHU is the culprit.

That's assuming you are talking about your indoor fan.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 9:56 am
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:15 am to
Yes, it's the indoor fan. Outdoor not moving. Unless the breakers are labeled wrong, I've turned all of them off (I have two units). Still it runs.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:20 am to
Your breakers are labelled wrong because you still have power to the AHU. Cycle through all your 208-230v breakers until you hear the AHU shut down.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:26 am to
Got it shut off. Breaker was labeled "air handler". Now what?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Your breakers are labelled wrong because you still have power to the AHU. Cycle through all your 208-230v breakers until you hear the AHU shut down.


Most likely the indoor blower fan is 120V, I did not understand the op fully earlier and thought it was just coming back on after t6he breaker flip. My money is still on transformer though, could be thermostat but I doubt it.
Posted by NoHairDontCare
Ft. Worth, TX
Member since Mar 2016
194 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:32 am to
Bad capacitor
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Bad capacitor



Not even sure how to reply to that but OK
Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:35 am to
stuck relay?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59491 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:36 am to
How old is your unit?

My handler/furnace was old. The evaporator coil pan was leaking and affected the fan relay switch which was doing what yours is. The fan wouldn't shut off. In your situation, maybe a surge did something.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:39 am to
Bad capacitor.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

stuck relay?
yes. And to the idiot that said bad capacitor.

Where do you people come from?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Bad capacitor.


Posted by Roman Candle Tag
Member since Mar 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:43 am to
My vote is the fan relay got fried in the on position when power was restored.

$10 part at the HVAC supply house.

It can even be tested if you have some basic electrical knowledge and a multi-meter.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:45 am to
quote:

My bet is a bad transformer,sorry.


fricking Decepticons.

EDIT: Put me in with the stuck relay/contactor camp. I guess it could also be a problem with other things in the control loop. But, failure of the control system would likely result in "not running" instead of "constantly running". My guess is that the control system is trying to de-energize the relay/contactor so that its spring can open the connection and break power to the fan. But, the physical connection that carries power to the fan was welded together by an arc at some point. So, even though the control system is de-energizing the relay to stop the fan, the spring in the relay isn't strong enough to break the weld and physically open the switch. So, the fan just runs. Start simple and work your way up from there.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:53 am
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:45 am to
Mine is ten years old. Something else that is the power company's fault, and I'm gonna have to pay for it.
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