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re: A Non-Conspiracy explanation to the collapse of WTC building 7

Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:19 am to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30247 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:19 am to
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Thib-a-doe Tiger

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ITT.


I've seen this on the board a few times lately. What does this mean?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35369 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:19 am to
In this thread
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30247 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:19 am to
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In this thread


A-ha. Ok, thanks
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:26 am to
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How should this tower, or any tower, fall from the events that happened?


what the hell is wrong with you and what are you arguing about?

First off, i thought we were talking about the twin towers, not the smaller one that collapsed later. sorry.
Secondly, is it that hard to believe that a building 1300 feet in the air might not fall STRAIGHT down when there's a huge explosion 3/4 of the way up the building?
I had a middle eastern dipshit professor explain to our strengths class how the design aided in the towers falling STRAIGHT down and how it was a successful failure in how the buildings fell.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57289 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:27 am to
WTC 7 had CIA black OPs in it right (came out later to be true)? If I was in the CIA and something like the plane explosions compromised national security intelligence by leaving all that info/data exposed, I can see why they would take it down - would compromise all our intelligence.

Think about the world descending into that area and this super classified office is just sitting there exposed for reporters etc.

With that said - the planes did it.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:28 am
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:30 am to
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It was also a fighter jet that hit WTC 2


Of course. The countless videos and thousands of witnesses indicating it was another jetliner were all planted by the same government that can't get a website to work right.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:30 am to
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WTC 7 had CIA black OPs in it right (came out later to be true)? If I was in the CIA and something like the plane explosions compromised national security intelligence by leaving all that info/data exposed, I can see why they would take it down - would compromise all our intelligence.

Think about the world descending into that area and this super classified office is just sitting there exposed for reporters etc.

With that said - the planes did it.


Olive Stone is working on the movie as we speak.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:32 am to
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The loss of the WTC buildings occurred precisely as experts would have predicted for a building exposed to that kind of fire. It's just that no one expected thousands of gallons of jet fuel to find its way into the building.
The report said fuel had no role in the collapse of Building 7.

Also, check out Madrid Windsor Tower Fire. Pretty bad stuff and the building didn't collapse as these experts predicted for a steel frame building fire. It was a partial collapse. Regardless of the cause, conspiracy theorists will always have the demolition style collapse of all three buildings to rely on in arguments.
Posted by emcee422
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2012
478 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 am to
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Bunk Moreland


Oh look, a buuilding collapsing the way its designed to collapse.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 am to
TxTiger will be here shortly to set the record straight that #7 was the worldwide headquarters of the Illuminati as well as the Knights Templar and the Pope, the Bilderberg Group along with the CIA arranged the WTC plane crashes as a distraction to destroy those two organizations......
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35369 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:37 am to
Why would they demo WTC 1 or 2 75 floors up? When you demo a building the explosives are planted on lower floors and then gravity does the rest
Posted by emcee422
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2012
478 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:37 am to
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it was interesting to see the building fall somewhat controlled from such an unexpected and unplanned explosion.


Tall buildings, especially in densely populated areas, are designed to collapse this way. It would be odd to see a building like this topple over sideways.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57289 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:38 am to
Why couldn't both be true.

1. Planes hit towers in a legit terrorist attack
2. CIA has an "oh crap" moment realizing they need to dissolve all their exposed intelligence
3. They take it down to protect info leaks - black ops data

Kinda stupid sounding now that I type it out - but that's a LITTLE more feasible considering it has been confirmed the CIA did have secret offices in WTC 7.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:40 am to
The collapse of the two main towers is pretty easy to explain with initial structural damage combined with the heat of combustion of the jet fuel weakening the integrity of the remaining supports.

The collapse of WTC 7 is more interesting as far as failure mechanisms go, simply because fire caused by office materials undergoing combustion usually wouldn't bring the tensile strength of the steel down far enough for complete failure.

Anyone know how much structural damage was done to the building due to the collapses of the other two buildings?
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 10:26 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:40 am to
It was Monsanto guys
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35369 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:41 am to
Walmart too
Posted by emcee422
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2012
478 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:42 am to
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Anyone know how much structural damage was done to the building die to the collapses of the other two buildings?


I believe it was supported by exterior columns that were destroyed on the side facing the first two collapses.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:43 am to
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Tall buildings, especially in densely populated areas, are designed to collapse this way. It would be odd to see a building like this topple over sideways.


yes they are designed that way. It's great it worked. People can make mistakes in design and workmanship.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64518 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:50 am to
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Why couldn't both be true.

1. Planes hit towers in a legit terrorist attack
2. CIA has an "oh crap" moment realizing they need to dissolve all their exposed intelligence
3. They take it down to protect info leaks - black ops data

Kinda stupid sounding now that I type it out - but that's a LITTLE more feasible considering it has been confirmed the CIA did have secret offices in WTC 7.



This would mean the CIA had to already have the building rigged with explosives situated at precise locations and timed to go off in the correct succession in order to get the building to come down in the manner that it did. Not saying that's impossible, just pointing out that if #2 in your theory is true, they already had to be ready because here was simply not time from the moment the planes hit the main tower to when WTC 7 collapsed for them to have rigged the building to come down. You would need days, not hours to prep the building for a controlled collapse.
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