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re: 2017 Mercedes AMG C63S Coupe vs BMW M4
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to Pecker
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to Pecker
lol cars over $175K aren't supercars my man, maybe performance wise they're in the same realm somewhat, but they're all too common to be supercars. Sure these cars have incredible performance, I'm not denying it, I'm just saying when I see these cars it says to me the driver loves cars but just can't afford a real sportscar, and that is usually the truth. They're great cars for what they are, daily driving cars with great performance and they're usually driven by the types who love to pull up at a stoplight and try to race a real sportscar and get their rocks off on the fact their car is cheaper and has similar performance.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:38 am
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to Pecker
Sorry to hear you have a small cock.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:39 am to upgrayedd
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Apparently BMW pipes in fake exhaust noise through the speakers because the turbos muted the growl
Unfortunately, a lot of vehicles do this now.
From an appearance and performance perspective, M4 > C63.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:40 am to Pecker
you get a mouse nowadays
give me an amg wagon
give me an amg wagon
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:40 am to Kingpenm3
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Didn't the M4 whip it on the track?
I've read about numerous test runs comparing the two and they are virtually identical. Both cars put up similar numbers in very different ways. C63 is raw power. M4 is very efficient.
ETA:
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eta: Super close track times:
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Hockenheim Lap Times (all times performed by Uwe Sener, Sport Auto):
M4 Competition Package (DCT): 1:11.9
M4 Coupe (DCT): 1:12.3
BMW M2 (DCT): 1:12.5
C63 S Coupe: 1:12.6
M4 Coupe (6MT): 1:12.8
Yep
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:41 am to dabigfella
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neither, they're for the wannabes who can't get a real sports car
So what are you considering "real sports cars"?
And I agree, there are more GT's than anything.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:44 am to Restomod
Porsche Turbo or GT3RS, Im biased to porsche to me they're the ultimate, something like a GT3RS 4.0 with a stick or GT2RS or even a basic GT2, none of the modern day PDK non-sense.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:47 am to Restomod
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After several M3's
Here are pics from me taking delivery of my M3 at the Welt in 11/15.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:48 am to Kingpenm3
The euro delivery is a blast, the 2 month wait for the incredibly slow boat to bring it to the US is such a killjoy though
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:49 am to dabigfella
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lol cars over $175K aren't supercars my man, maybe performance wise they're in the same realm somewhat, but they're all too common to be supercars. Sure these cars have incredible performance, I'm not denying it, I'm just saying when I see these cars it says to me the driver loves cars but just can't afford a real sportscar, and that is usually the truth. They're great cars for what they are, daily driving cars with great performance and they're usually driven by the types who love to pull up at a stoplight and try to race a real sportscar and get their rocks off on the fact their car is cheaper and has similar performance.
Maybe you and I (and Autoweek and Car and Driver) have different definitions of the term Supercar. Neither here nor there, really.
You're still making a strange argument. It may or may not be the case that someone driving an M4 can't afford a Porsche 911 GT3 RS or an AMG GTR, but they're all together a different class. You buy them and drive them for different reasons. One is a daily driver with incredible performance. The other is strictly a performance vehicle.
That's like scoffing at someone wearing expensive sneakers because they aren't wearing Sutor Mantellassi alligators.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:49 am to SidewalkDawg
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SidewalkDawg
That's pretty good
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:50 am to dabigfella
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Porsche Turbo or GT3RS, Im biased to porsche to me they're the ultimate, something like a GT3RS 4.0 with a stick, none of the modern day DPK non-sense.
The Porsche is a tweener, a GT with the performance of a Sports car.... when that said I'm a fan. I do hate that Porsche has gone all turbos for the 911.
Even if you hate American you hate to consider the Corvette iterations and Viper in that category.
I loathe the PDK , personally I'd rather go slower with the antiquated manual.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:50 am to Pecker
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What's a real sports car?
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:52 am to Pecker
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You're still making a strange argument. It may or may not be the case that someone driving an M4 can't afford a Porsche 911 GT3 RS or an AMG GTR, but they're all together a different class. You buy them and drive them for different reasons. One is a daily driver with incredible performance. The other is strictly a performance vehicle.
So a 911 Turbo isn't a daily driver? It's got leather seats, radio, cup holders. It isn't quite as extreme as the GT3RS 4.0 which replaces the porsche emblem with a sticker to reduce weight amongst other reductions. I don't know what you consider a daily driver or not but basically 99% of modern sports cars over $175k have all the creature comforts of daily driving machines. There really aren't that many cars like the old days that weren't daily drivers. That term comes from older cars like the countach where you had to sit on the door sill and look behind you to go in reverse bc there were no reverse cameras. You could daily drive an aventador today with no issues.
I don't know if you really know what you're talking about when you say "daily driver"
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:56 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Maybe Ageras and One-77s are what you bros use as your daily drivers, but for the rest of us, it might be impractical.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:58 am to Pecker
Love those Black and red Mercedes AMG 205s.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:59 am to dabigfella
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The euro delivery is a blast, the 2 month wait for the incredibly slow boat to bring it to the US is such a killjoy though
For sure. Done it twice now. Last weekend I was in Galveston and I believe that I got to see the Wallenius Wilhelmsen ship that the M3 came over on in port. Both of my cars were shipped to the east coast, so I didn't get to see the ship at the times.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:00 am to dabigfella
A 911 turbo could certainly be a daily driver, but most of the cars you're describing aren't really suitable for that. You put miles on a daily driver. That's what makes it a daily driver. You drive it daily.
Why would you buy a Ferrari F12 and make it your daily driver to put tons of miles on it with constant maintenance?
Why would you buy a Ferrari F12 and make it your daily driver to put tons of miles on it with constant maintenance?
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:02 am to dabigfella
You didn't mention the 911 Turbo in your list. I can tell you that a GT3 certainly is not a daily driver. It's a track car.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:05 am to Pecker
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Maybe Ageras and One-77s are what you bros use as your daily drivers, but for the rest of us, it might be impractical.
What? I posted a Jaguar Ftype....it can be had for under $70k
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