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Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
It was written in 2012, SFP. Almost every state was finding ways to lower their spending. Most states are actually REQUIRED to balance their budget and more than just Higher Ed was cut.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:08 pm to ell_13
oh i know. i'm saying go do the math
i believe it would be the majority of most states' entire budgets. i did it once for texas when arguing with tuba
i believe it would be the majority of most states' entire budgets. i did it once for texas when arguing with tuba
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:09 pm to danilo
Book production costs have decreased dramatically in that time period. Royalties have increased at ridiculous rates. E-books are provided on some campuses (Indiana, Missouri, etc.) at 1/3 the cost of a printed book.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:12 pm to slaphappy
quote:So $80 instead of $240?
E-books are provided on some campuses (Indiana, Missouri, etc.) at 1/3 the cost of a printed book.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:... No.
oh i know. i'm saying go do the math
quote:Wouldn't be surprised.
i believe it would be the majority of most states' entire budgets
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:19 pm to ell_13
quote:
So $80 instead of $240?
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:29 pm to slaphappy
E-books still average around 80-100. They're not cheap either.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:30 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
OT from 2008-14
"Go get that petro degree baw"
RIP
"Go get that petro degree baw"
RIP
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:39 pm to danilo
I don't want to shift gears too much or hijack the thread but this is the sort of stuff where I sympathize with the minimum wage increase crowd.
Now don't get me wrong, let me go ahead and state up front:
1) Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be career jobs and I know a lot of people making a fuss about the increase are damn McDonalds lifers.
2) Yes, college is expensive and some degrees just don't lead to high paying careers. Students should do their research beforehand.
3) Some people are just dumb with their money.
But, there are a lot of students that are genuinely looking to work to pay their way through college. Whether it's to help towards paying off the loans or just paying rent until they graduate and get a job and then pay off the loans.
Either way, the cost of living has gone way up and so have the costs of school and I think there are a lot of hardworking students out there that could use a bit of a minimum wage bump (and I know it has in some states).... even if that means there will be some 30+ year old at the Taco Bell register getting paid $15.00 an hour.
Now don't get me wrong, let me go ahead and state up front:
1) Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be career jobs and I know a lot of people making a fuss about the increase are damn McDonalds lifers.
2) Yes, college is expensive and some degrees just don't lead to high paying careers. Students should do their research beforehand.
3) Some people are just dumb with their money.
But, there are a lot of students that are genuinely looking to work to pay their way through college. Whether it's to help towards paying off the loans or just paying rent until they graduate and get a job and then pay off the loans.
Either way, the cost of living has gone way up and so have the costs of school and I think there are a lot of hardworking students out there that could use a bit of a minimum wage bump (and I know it has in some states).... even if that means there will be some 30+ year old at the Taco Bell register getting paid $15.00 an hour.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:24 pm to ell_13
Now we are also having to pay to do our homework online ($50-100)
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:31 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:
I don't want to shift gears too much or hijack the thread but this is the sort of stuff where I sympathize with the minimum wage increase crowd.
Now don't get me wrong, let me go ahead and state up front:
1) Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be career jobs and I know a lot of people making a fuss about the increase are damn McDonalds lifers.
2) Yes, college is expensive and some degrees just don't lead to high paying careers. Students should do their research beforehand.
3) Some people are just dumb with their money.
But, there are a lot of students that are genuinely looking to work to pay their way through college. Whether it's to help towards paying off the loans or just paying rent until they graduate and get a job and then pay off the loans.
Either way, the cost of living has gone way up and so have the costs of school and I think there are a lot of hardworking students out there that could use a bit of a minimum wage bump (and I know it has in some states).... even if that means there will be some 30+ year old at the Taco Bell register getting paid $15.00 an hour.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:34 pm to theGarnetWay
Garnet Way,
You'd just be making the inflation cycle even worse.
Which prevents you from borrowing a textbook or buying a used one. You still need the "online access code."
You'd just be making the inflation cycle even worse.
quote:
Now we are also having to pay to do our homework online ($50-100)
Which prevents you from borrowing a textbook or buying a used one. You still need the "online access code."
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:37 pm to ell_13
That's what happens when the Internet makes publishing books more expensive because the volume is no longer there.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:42 pm to Hammertime
quote:
Now we are also having to pay to do our homework online ($50-100)
thats the fricking worst. Especially that My MathLab or MyChemestryLab bullshite.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:55 pm to danilo
Textbook prices are crazy and they come out with a new edition every year.
What a good life if you're in that business.
What a good life if you're in that business.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:26 am to The Boat
Need new textbooks for that common core math... 
Posted on 2/4/16 at 5:18 am to ell_13
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Colleges and Universities have literally every reason to raise admission rates for the simple reason that the money is there an available and necessary to employ professors requiring double what they did 10 years ago.
Professors aren't the root of the problem. Its the out-of-control administrative branch of major state universities that put the biggest strain on budgets and promote broadening admissions bases. IMO academic bureaucracy has taken on a life of its own, and it is relatively disconnected from the instructional aspect of the university.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 7:47 am to LSUwag
quote:
Bernie Sanders will make it even worse.
Sanders wants public education to be free.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 7:48 am to danilo
I remember when I had to secure student loans to finish out my last year and a half, the cost of tuition for a semester was something around $1700. What is it today?
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