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re: Would you trade Cooks for any of the receivers drafted before him?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:52 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:52 pm to FootballNostradamus
Lulz. I was talking about the SAINT'S initial training camp reports. Keep trying tho.
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:02 pm to Patrick O Rly
Watkins. In a heartbeat.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:10 pm to 337Tiger19
Looking at their combine results, Cooks beats or equals Watkins in every category. The only major thing Watkins has on him is height and weight.
Cooks
Watkins
He has a faster top speed, better leaping ability (which is a wash with Watkins height), faster acceleration, around the same strength level etc. Both have amazing hands and are excellent route runners.
Does Watkins return kicks/punts?
Cooks
Watkins
He has a faster top speed, better leaping ability (which is a wash with Watkins height), faster acceleration, around the same strength level etc. Both have amazing hands and are excellent route runners.
Does Watkins return kicks/punts?
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:12 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:Disagree. I think that's what separates the two. And height obviously.
around the same strength level
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:15 pm to Melvin
I'm just going off the bench press results. You're probably right.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:44 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:
Posted by Patrick O Rly Looking at their combine results, Cooks beats or equals Watkins in every category. The only major thing Watkins has on him is height and weight.
He has a faster top speed, better leaping ability (which is a wash with Watkins height), faster acceleration, around the same strength level etc. Both have amazing hands and are excellent route runners. Does Watkins return kicks/punts?
Again, let me preface this by saying I think Cooks is going to be awesome for us, I really do.
1. You can't casually dismiss a 20 pound difference. Sammy is as thick a WR as you will find.
2. Cooks has a 2" better vert. Sammy is 3" taller and his arms are 2" longer. If you think vertically it's a wash you're crazy. Watch Sammy's tape, there are countless clips of him outleaping opponents and beating them to the ball in the air. Hell Clemson ran fade after fade to him when they got in the redzone. I love Cooks but he can't touch Sammy in the air.
3. If you think their strength is similar you're crazy. Sammy runs over linebackers. Watch the Orange Bowl and see him make Shazier (this board's Draft Dildo) look like a 160 pound corner. He puts him on skates like he's not even wearing cleats. He tosses NFL DBs from FSU around like they're scrubs when they try to press him.
4. Cooks has him in the return game. Watkins does it some, but he's never been elite at it.
Again, love love love Cooks, but Sammy will be a legit star from day one.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:45 pm to Meateye
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I said it 6 months ago and I will say it again, Cooks will be the best WR to come out of this draft. Two months from now it won't even be a question.
Two months from now it will be considered blasphemy that anyone would take a WR over Sammy in this draft.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:47 pm to FootballNostradamus
Is it possible that your CFB preference is making you biased?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 4:01 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Is it possible that your CFB preference is making you biased?
Nah, I actually followed Sammy since he was a freshmen in high school and was ready for college ball. I just lucked out he signed with Clemson.
Again, beyond ecstatic about Cooks but Sammy is incredible. Everyone will see.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:49 pm to Patrick O Rly
I like Evans, but we already have Jimmy Graham.
I prefer the speed breaking abilities of Cooks and Watkins to match up with Graham and the other guys.
I prefer the speed breaking abilities of Cooks and Watkins to match up with Graham and the other guys.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:53 pm to FootballNostradamus
Cooks is incredible in his own right.. He didn't have the talent of Clemson around him and was always doubled teamed and still won the biletnikoff.
I know Sammy is incredible, but he did have another outstanding receiver, quarterback, and probably better rbs playing with him. Both guys are absolute studs. Would love either. I really really really like the character of Cooks along with his incredible talent.
I know Sammy is incredible, but he did have another outstanding receiver, quarterback, and probably better rbs playing with him. Both guys are absolute studs. Would love either. I really really really like the character of Cooks along with his incredible talent.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:23 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Nope. Coleman can do everything Watkins can do.
Probably. He can definitely do everything Jimmy can do.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:25 pm to 337Tiger19
quote:
Watkins. In a heartbeat.
Are you trolling? You haven't even seen either take a snap in a real game yet.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:39 pm to 4thandinches
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Watkins. In a heartbeat.
Are you trolling? You haven't even seen either take a snap in a real game yet.
Nor has any GM and there's not a single one who'd take Cooks over Watkins.
I firmly believe that.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:40 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Nope. Coleman can do everything Watkins can do.
UDFA Coleman?
If so this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Seriously and I hate hyperbole.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:41 pm to FootballNostradamus
Dude...do you even HooDoo?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:42 pm to goatmilker
It seems that Football Nostradamus doesn't love that Hoo Doo that I Do.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:43 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
Nor has any GM and there's not a single one who'd take Cooks over Watkins.
Moot
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:44 pm to Hoodoo Man
Definitely has not and probably will never HooDoo.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
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It seems that Football Nostradamus doesn't love that Hoo Doo that I Do.
Ah, one of these days they're gonna make a sarcasm font for message boards. Carry on, well done. I chuckled once I realized it was in jest.
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