re: Would you rather limp to 8-8 or bomb to 3-13

Any other year I'd say 3-13.

But honestly, this group has one more year left. 8-8 means we solved a couple of current issues.

We should have some money to spend next year. If we were to land a FA WR and draft an impact DE, I want to take one more run at the playoffs with this group.

i'll take the high draft pick, need to face that its time to rebuild

8-8

After their history, what gives you any confidence that whoever they draft, even at 3rd, is going to be worth a shite, anyway?

3-13 personally as painful as that would be to stomach.

8-8 is not drastic enough for the changes I want to see happen occur...if anything it could just further validate "how close" we were if given some breaks to almost being better than the team that scraped by really was.

(I can already hear Drew talking about those 2-3 plays that could have changed the season and made them 11-5 when in fact we were a 5 win team that Drew carried)

I think Sean and Drew have more than enough good will in the FO to get another year no matter how this season turns out.

3-13 is arse lite under fire time which is exactly what I think Sean needs. Complacency kills, he acts untouchable because he feels like he is.

In addition to better draft position, coaching changes will be required even if the head remains the same. Some long overdue position coaches will be replaced.

Loomis as GM would feel heat and hopefully be more useful than just "bean counting" as he would be required to help assist in acquiring the right coaches to surround Payton with. Not just yes men.

People know what we do offensively and at 3-13 along with our long overdue trend of declining in offensive efficiency Sean may finally be required to hand the keys to the car over. What was once a Ferrari is now a fuel economy vehicle...we need a new offensive mentality to get from point A to point B.

If Rob stays in New Orleans, he should be allowed to pick his coaches...He literally inherited all of Sean's guys. Johnson, Vitt, and Allen.

I think this team has lost its edge and I hope enough real competitors are still on this team. The taste of 3-13 would be like eating dog shite...and someone as cocky and arrogant as Sean doesn't eat dog shite.

8-8 can get you into the playoffs. So that's what I vote for.

If it were 7-9 or 3-13, I'd probably go with 3-13.

I highly doubt 8-8 gets us in the playoffs and unless we drastically improve, I doubt we get to 8 wins anyway. We just lost to fricking Tampa....in the Dome. That's not a Patriots scenario last year where they actually got destroyed by a good Chiefs team.


We lost to a team that's going to have a top 5 draft pick. So, I don't see 8 wins at all.

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That's not a Patriots scenario last year where they actually got destroyed by a good Chiefs team.

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I mean the chiefs were 1-2 at the time and had lost at home to the titans by 16. Chiefs also started 0-2

Looking at the chiefs, they were very inconsistent

Pats had also lost to the Dolphins by 13, and were shutout in the 2nd half

I'd rather go 0-16 at this point.

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8-8 or 3-13 are both still basically loosing seasons
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Uh, nope
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8-8 means you did not have a winning record and the Saints are drafting between picks 9-12 of the draft.

3-13 means terrible loosing record drafting between picks 1-5.

Difference 1-2 year rebuilding process or 2-4 years of rebuilding this team...

I hate to see them loose as much as the next fan but look how quick Loomis and Payton turned this team around following 2005 season with the second pick of the draft.