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Will the NFL make the Saints/Parcells Rule in the next offseason?
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:17 am
Some callers on the NFL Network radio this morning were talking about how it isn't right that the Saints can hire from outside their organization while there Head Coach is suspended. They were all saying that the Saints should have to promote from within in that situation. It got them even more upset that they will have the ability to hire a future HoF coach and all thought there should be some rule against the outside hire. The NFL Network guys said that, since this has never happened in the history of the league, no rule exisits and the Saints are using a loophole to the benefit of the team.
My question is, if the Saints get Parcells and are successful this year, will the NFL make a rule against hiring a HC from outside the organization while the current HC is under suspension?
My question is, if the Saints get Parcells and are successful this year, will the NFL make a rule against hiring a HC from outside the organization while the current HC is under suspension?
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:20 am to steelreign
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will the NFL make a rule against hiring a HC from outside the organization while the current HC is under suspension?
very likely.
Just as they changed the OT rules because of the Saints success.
This post was edited on 3/29/12 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:22 am to tgrbaitn08
nfl hates the whodatnation
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:23 am to steelreign
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Some callers on the NFL Network radio this morning were talking about how it isn't right that the Saints can hire from outside their organization while there Head Coach is suspended. They were all saying that the Saints should have to promote from within in that situation. It got them even more upset that they will have the ability to hire a future HoF coach and all thought there should be some rule against the outside hire. The NFL Network guys said that, since this has never happened in the history of the league, no rule exisits and the Saints are using a loophole to the benefit of the team.
People are absolutely retarded. Why shouldn't we be able to hire anyone we want? This reasoning makes no sense. What if Payton was fired? Could we only hire from within then?
People are dumb and are just butthurt that we aren't laying over and dying.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:24 am to steelreign
I really don't see how they could, or why. Do people really expect a head coach to get suspended for a whole year again?
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:25 am to steelreign
I think its total BS. What stops us from losing Vilma for some time and signing Lofton? Nothing. I think its the same. There is no reason they should "have" to hire from within. I don't think its a loophole, by definition. Look at what Josh Daniels did when leaving the team he was at and going to the Pats in the same season. They chose to not change anything in that rule at the recent meetings. If they do make that sort of rule next offseason, then I will concede to the conspiracy theorists.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:25 am to steelreign
I honestly am not amazed no one has said this yet (at least that I've seen)... but am I the only one that LOVES (as a falcons fan) the idea of Parcells being the interim HC?
I think it's TERRIBLE for the Saints and that's why I love it! Why on earth would you run the risk of doing the following:
1) Pissing off Carmichael by not making him interim HC
2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
3) Could it screw up team chemistry?
4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
5) What happens in 2 years when Payton comes back?
Just seems like it could screw up the whole vibe/chemistry going on with the Saints. I fully support it - I'm just amazed you all do as well!
Cheers to your demise!
I think it's TERRIBLE for the Saints and that's why I love it! Why on earth would you run the risk of doing the following:
1) Pissing off Carmichael by not making him interim HC
2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
3) Could it screw up team chemistry?
4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
5) What happens in 2 years when Payton comes back?
Just seems like it could screw up the whole vibe/chemistry going on with the Saints. I fully support it - I'm just amazed you all do as well!
Cheers to your demise!
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:25 am to steelreign
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The NFL Network guys said that, since this has never happened in the history of the league, no rule exisits and the Saints are using a loophole to the benefit of the team
loophole !?!? WTF
Gotdamn assholes. pFFFFT!
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:26 am to Fun Bunch
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People are dumb and are just butthurt that we aren't laying over and dying.
I'm starting to believe this more and more. They can't handle that the Saints are still trying to field a viable Super Bowl contender next season.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:27 am to SaintEB
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What stops us from losing Vilma for some time and signing Lofton? Nothing. I think its the same.
They brought up that same idea during the discussion. That teams sign back-up players all the time when a starter gets suspended or hurt.
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Look at what Josh Daniels did when leaving the team he was at and going to the Pats in the same season.
The radio hosts also talked about this and didn't think that should be allowed for a coach to be on 2 different coaching staffs in the same year.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:27 am to DoubleDown
Payton has been suspended for 2 years now? 
Anyway Parcells wouldn't come in and change anything. He would just let the rest of the coaches coach without having to worry about taking on more responsibility.
Anyway Parcells wouldn't come in and change anything. He would just let the rest of the coaches coach without having to worry about taking on more responsibility.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:28 am to SaintEB
The idiots won't be happy until the Saints are forced to forfeit every game during the 2012 season, but still go out and play them and risk injury and line Goodell's pockets.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:29 am to DoubleDown
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2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
Wouldn't call Parcells "unknown"
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3) Could it screw up team chemistry? 4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
Nope
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Just seems like it could screw up the whole vibe/chemistry going on with the Saints. I fully support it - I'm just amazed you all do as well! Cheers to your demise!
Good luck with that....
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:29 am to DoubleDown
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1) Pissing off Carmichael by not making him interim HC
I has been said that he would rather focus on the O...not sure how true.
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2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
Parcells is not an unknown to Payton. I'm sure they'll get their shite together.
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3) Could it screw up team chemistry?
As long as Drew is there, the team will be fine.
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4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
I doubt it much.
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5) What happens in 2 years when Payton comes back?
Parcells goes back and plays golf and SP picks up the reins again. (2 years?)
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:29 am to steelreign
The guy that was going to get the interim also got suspended. Are we just supposed to play the season without two coaches?
Using that reasoning, I guess we only field guys from teh practice squad or draft, right? We can't hit free agency to replace suspended players?
People are just mad that we were supposed to get punished big time and we're still gonna kick everyone's arse this season. Yeah...they mad.
Using that reasoning, I guess we only field guys from teh practice squad or draft, right? We can't hit free agency to replace suspended players?
People are just mad that we were supposed to get punished big time and we're still gonna kick everyone's arse this season. Yeah...they mad.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:30 am to SaintLSUnAtl
I think the Saints should be forced to hire Cam Cameron. That would teach them not to cheat.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:31 am to steelreign
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The radio hosts also talked about this and didn't think that should be allowed for a coach to be on 2 different coaching staffs in the same year.
I agree with that, but this wouldn't even be that. The Saints cannot request an interview with someone already on a staff, so they are limited in that case. If a HC job was still available, that team could ask permission from any team to speak to other position coaches/coordinators.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:33 am to Patrick O Rly
I phrased that poorly.
I meant it in the sense of this year having Parcells and then next year (year 2) you go back to Payton. It seems to me that it would be easier to go from Carmichael back to Payton (yr 1 --> yr 2) vs. Parcells back to Payton.
I meant it in the sense of this year having Parcells and then next year (year 2) you go back to Payton. It seems to me that it would be easier to go from Carmichael back to Payton (yr 1 --> yr 2) vs. Parcells back to Payton.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:34 am to DoubleDown
You're better than that, Double.
1) Pissing off Carmichael by not making him interim HC
-Carmichael has stated that he'd prefer to worry about only offensive duties.
2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
-BIll and Sean are incredibly close, this has and will continue to be discussed. If ever to take in an "outside variable", this would be the one to take in.
3) Could it screw up team chemistry?
-The reason it won't is because the offense will still be able to keep it's usual routine. Payton said in his interview that the entire schedule up to the start of the season is complete. Brees and Carmichael will still have the offensive juggernaut going on. The team has so much to prove and play for now, they are playing to make a point.
4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
-It will be incredibly strange, but Carmichael knows the deal, and Brees is the best leader in the game.
5) What happens in 2 years when Payton comes back?
-He comes back with open arms after the tuna steered the ship for the season.
1) Pissing off Carmichael by not making him interim HC
-Carmichael has stated that he'd prefer to worry about only offensive duties.
2) Adding in a 'outside variable' that is an unknown
-BIll and Sean are incredibly close, this has and will continue to be discussed. If ever to take in an "outside variable", this would be the one to take in.
3) Could it screw up team chemistry?
-The reason it won't is because the offense will still be able to keep it's usual routine. Payton said in his interview that the entire schedule up to the start of the season is complete. Brees and Carmichael will still have the offensive juggernaut going on. The team has so much to prove and play for now, they are playing to make a point.
4) Could it screw up coach chemistry?
-It will be incredibly strange, but Carmichael knows the deal, and Brees is the best leader in the game.
5) What happens in 2 years when Payton comes back?
-He comes back with open arms after the tuna steered the ship for the season.
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:36 am to DoubleDown
Well Carmichael already has a full time job. I'd rather he concentrate on that.
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