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re: What the hell happened to this defense after being pretty good last year?

Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:17 am to
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:17 am to
Not even looking at anything else, the cushion the CBs and Safeties are giving is driving me up a fricking wall. Idk why Ryan is afraid to give up the deep ball because we're getting needled to death by quick passes.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:17 am to
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We are making PRob a scapegoat at this point.


That's what happens when you play like he did last week. Pass interference, holding, getting beat, and then he lines up offsides for a cherry on top

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:19 am to
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Not even looking at anything else, the cushion the CBs and Safeties are giving is driving me up a fricking wall. Idk why Ryan is afraid to give up the deep ball because we're getting needled to death by quick passes.



We did play a lot closer to the line this game. KV was sent on blitzes and was effective v
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:24 am to
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the cushion the CBs and Safeties are giving is driving me up a fricking wall.

Completely agree. Every pass is caught before there's a saint around. No one breaks to the ball. That's high-school football 101 shite. If every down the Saints are single tackling guys with no help, that's a coaching and scheme issue.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 8:54 am to
We should change the name of the Saints to Djangos...The D is silent.
Posted by HHSTigerAlumni
Member since Sep 2010
291 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:07 am to
Blame the whole team.... yeah Brees threw the INT but Graham let it sail through his hands. Meachum dropped a TD pass. Blame CSP for not running the ball more when it was working to perfection. Corey White and P-Rob suck which isnt anything new since the time P-Rob got drafted till Whites last year production when Greer got hurt. This is why your not getting the production out of your safeties, they're having to help cover White, P-Rob, and the LB's wrs and tes. NO pass rush what so ever. 2 sacks in two games is horrible.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:16 am to
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Graham let it sail through his hands.


bullshite. Jimmy is over 8 feet tall with his hands out stretched and it went over his hands. That's on Brees.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:20 am to
It went through his hands

The fault lies with the oline and going 5 wide
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1400 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:27 am to
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It went through his hands The fault lies with the oline and going 5 wide


Yeah, it's obvious that the OLine struggles in pass protection. They are much better when blocking for the run. Another reason why it makes no sense that we pass so much.

We just have to face it that Brees is past his prime. He can't make every throw every time like he used to. He's still a top 5 QB, but we can't rely on him to be the whole offense anymore.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:00 am to
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We just have to face it that Brees is past his prime. He can't make every throw every time like he used to. He's still a top 5 QB, but we can't rely on him to be the whole offense anymore.




We arent playing to his strength anymore. He's got a quick release and can scan routes faster than anyone. We used to run a lot of slant and cut routes and out routes and slot in routes and sedn a RB to chip and check down and Brees would hit someone in under 3 seconds for a few yards and we'd march up the field. Now we are trying these 10 yard minimum routes, deep passes, etc... Then you throw in the issue of establishing a dominant running game then going empty set constantly so the entire defense knows whats coming. We didnt used to do that shite.

We have a playcalling issue and Payton is being a fricktard.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31575 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:07 am to
If we win our next four games I will believe we are a playoff team...but I don't think we will win our next 4.
This four game stretch is huge. We go into our bye week 4-2 I will relax.

I think we win our next 3 and drop the Lions game
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9436 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:12 am to
He is making a lot of mistakes but that does not make him solely responsible for the bad play of the defense. They are all playing bad.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:29 am to
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He is making a lot of mistakes but that does not make him solely responsible for the bad play of the defense. They are all playing bad.



He is responsible for 10 straight points. Brees is responsible for 7.

The Browns had 26 points. They only scored 9 of those.
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