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re: What the hell happened to this defense after being pretty good last year?

Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43514 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:27 pm to
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I watched the game where he got the ball on his own 4 and drove the length of the field to win against a D that was supposedly top 5 today





just like the drive before where our supposed top 5 offense couldnt get a first down to win the game?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:28 pm to
The answer to this thread is Jabari Greer. Nothing else.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29995 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:28 pm to
We had the first down easily had we not called a TO
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

We need to tank this season this team is garbage who is free agent corners next year we need to sign all of them


They don't have the money for that especially if they re-up Jordan.
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:19 pm to
Absolutely right. We lost Jabari Greer, and instead of spending big money on a quality NFL CB, we spent $54 million on a safety. We only have one starting caliber NFL cornerback, and it's killing us. This staff and front office is usually great at free agency, but it looks like they were wrong here.
Posted by saintsalwaysnumber1
Newport news Va
Member since Dec 2008
1372 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:23 pm to
We payed one guy big money to not give it his all and bryd got paid could have had revis island but we choose to pay a safety who now is lazy.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:14 pm to
I'd rather have kept Jenkins and used the Byrd money to sign a quality cb.
Posted by Isaid
Member since Nov 2011
743 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:19 pm to
The defense did blow yet again, but they we're put on a short field numerous times due to our lack of offense oh and the pick six doesn't help.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:37 pm to
We need blueslover back.
Posted by Sleazy E
Member since Jan 2014
1768 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:00 pm to
It's the players, not Rob Ryan. Same thing happened after the 1st year with Gregg Williams. I don't know if they are just not trying or don't want to or just suck. This is the same defense from last year. Hell, it's supposed to be much improved. Main reason is Patrick Robinson and the pass rush is not getting any pressure, which was a big reason for success last year. This has always been a theme with the Saints defense. They just don't get it. They have cost us too much over the years and something has got to change.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8287 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:07 pm to
I don't understand it either. Junior Galette and Cam Jordan aren't the terrors they were last year. Akiem Hicks hasn't taken the next step everyone thought he would. LB's are solid, but not impactful. With the exception of the forced fumble, Jairus Byrd has not lived up to his billing. Vaccaro has made absolutely no plays. Corey White is way too inconsistent, and his bad plays are costly. P-Rob.. well, you know. Where is Raphael Bush? Every single blitz has been perfectly picked up by offenses. No pass rush. Only one forced turnover. They get mauled by offensive lines on running plays. They are at their worst in crucial moments, especially after the two-minute warning. I can't believe how terrible this defense has been. So disappointing.

Drew Brees and the offense has to be perfect to compensate for our inept defense.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31575 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:27 pm to
Byrd and Vaccaro and Lewis aren't making plays in the secondary. and our middle LB's our very very weak. Everything else was fine.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

P rob returned
This
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:11 am to
And there it is.

Byrds a bust after 2 games! Loomis sucks again! I'd prefer malcom jenkins(who was horribly below average and not worth 5 mil)

Oh look I feel like i was right and want to rub it in everyones face after 2 games

Get fricked pansies.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:39 am to
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Defense played well enough to win. The offense didn't. 

That's the difference. 

The defense gave up a FG on that last drive. Brees gave up 6 points all by himself. Had that not happened, that last drive wouldn't have mattered. 


Brees also took a sack which knocked us out of Field goal range. Which would've made their field goal irrelevant. Payton also blew a time out which called back a first down which could've chewed clock and made that last drive fail.

People who put this whole game on the defense and forgive the offense and say the defense is to blame are either stupid or didn't watch the game.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:40 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:43 am to
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Every single blitz has been perfectly picked up by offenses.


See I completely disagree with this. I've only noticed us send 5 or more guys a handful of times these past 2 games. And when we actually blitz we get some pressure. We did get a couple qb hits and hurrys against the Browns and Ryan was forced out the pocket a few times. The problem is we won't commit to blitzing. We sure fake blitz a ton though. And just like the stupid running shite we do on offense, no one will buy our stacked box fake blitz drop back coverage plays if we never make them respect our blitz in the first place.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 6:44 am
Posted by Purpleye
Westworld
Member since Nov 2010
1732 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:48 am to
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Payton focused on pussy.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This X infinity!!!
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9436 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:50 am to
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. You guys are blowing this out of proportion. There are kinks in this defense but the talent is there. Give it at least a few more weeks before you bail on it completely.

This defense did not have Greer for half of last season and we managed at CB. We are making PRob a scapegoat at this point. At this point I'm ready to call it schematic. I have not seen anything on that field yet that looks even half as creative as what we saw on defense last year.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:15 am to
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We are making PRob a scapegoat at this point


Him and Brees single handedly have the Browns 17 points.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:16 am to
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