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re: We traded Cooks for a college OL
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:09 pm to McCringleberryy
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:09 pm to McCringleberryy
Also cooks was acting like a bitch this season
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:12 pm to McCringleberryy
Ramcyzk is more athletic and mobile than Zach Strief who has been decent for the Saints the last couple of years, but Ramcyzk should supplant him at RT giving the Saints maybe one of their strongest OLine's potentially ever. They would start I suppose as follows below:
LT - Armstead
LG - Peat
C - Unger
RG - Warford
RT - Ramcyzk
Looks good on paper with Strief as a backup.
LT - Armstead
LG - Peat
C - Unger
RG - Warford
RT - Ramcyzk
Looks good on paper with Strief as a backup.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:26 pm to tubucoco
Should of traded up for Barnett or Foster later. Y'all forget how atrocious our defense is.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:36 pm to McCringleberryy
quote:
We traded Cooks for a college OL
Do you remember the Graham for Unger trade?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:39 pm to broadcaster
With a dominant O line we could get three or four years out of Brees, Peterson, and Ingram.
A dominant O line made Prescott look good, and he was just above average at Miss St.
A dominant O line made Prescott look good, and he was just above average at Miss St.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:45 pm to VA LSU fan
Now that we have a dominant O-line, let's get a good edge rusher and work on a dominant D-line, maybe get a good LB too.
With the next 3 picks, We need
EDGE
LB
S or another CB
With the next 3 picks, We need
EDGE
LB
S or another CB
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:49 pm to McCringleberryy
quote:I don't think anyone has forgotten anything, they addressed the defense by taking the top CB in the draft, and tomorrow I'm sure they will continue to address their defensive deficiencies with more good players on the defensive side. But they had an opportunity to strengthen another weak area and that's the OLine, and they did by taking the best OT in the draft once Pittsburgh and especially SF got the best 2 defenders they probably could have taken. Now they have another solid OLineman that could give them a really strong OLine finally.
Y'all forget how atrocious our defense is.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 12:13 am to McCringleberryy
quote:
We traded Cooks for a college OL
quote:
McCringleberryy
This might be the stupidest fricking post of the night. frick off.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:39 am to McCringleberryy
Cooks sucked. MT is where it's at. The "college OL pick" was free.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:14 am to SirWinston
quote:
Cooks is a damn midget I was tired of seeing Brees overthrow him 12 times a year.
Always outjumped and rarely worked to come back to balls when Drew under pressure. We need better, more consistancy, and depth in OL.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:16 am to broadcaster
quote:
They are making their Oline dominant
Against the status quo that loves the glitz players, however, this is WHY Dallas has become a solid team.
Offensive Line, Offensive Line, Offensive Line
Posted on 4/28/17 at 6:50 am to McCringleberryy
Dude, Cooks was developing an attitude and he didn't want to be here anymore. Cooks was a budding problem, not a promising solution, for the Saints. We will get another WR. What we got was a cheap OL with no attitude problem who can contribute from day one and help keep our #1 player upright.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 7:02 am to tubucoco
quote:
LT - Armstead
LG - Peat
C - Unger
RG - Warford
RT - Ramcyzk
Looks good on paper with Strief as a backup.
It does.
But, people rightfully realize that we aren't really going to upgrade RT right away even if you replace Streif with Ramcyzk. And, the alternative could have been filling an actual hole while still ending up with similar OL potential.
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:22 am to moneyg
How does not having Ramcyzk qualify as "similar oline potential"?
He was the #1 T on their board. Where do they get a T with "similar potential"?
He was the #1 T on their board. Where do they get a T with "similar potential"?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:25 am to McCringleberryy
quote:
We traded Cooks for a college OL
I can hardly fathom how an "intelligent" person can say something so incredibly stupid as this.
A college OL? What the hell does that even mean? Literally every player in the draft are college players. So every team is wasting their picks by selecting unproven, college players?
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:52 am to McCringleberryy
quote:So what if we did?
We traded Cooks for a college OL
Look at the receiving corps- Thomas, Snead, Cook. Which player is Brees going to target first? Who is Brees going to look for on 3rd downs? Whose hands do you feel are best, down to worst?
You know Cook comes in 3rd on those questions. He isn't the consistent, sure-handed, keep the chains moving type of guy. He doesn't like catching in traffic.
Brees is great. Brees finds everyone. Brees will pass for probably almost 300 yds a game, again. What's Brees' biggest weakness?
**ok, you might have said his height, but we can't do anything about that**
Huh, what?
You say he's 38 and his deep ball is starting to fade a bit (not much)?
Or did you say he's 38 and maybe more fragile than he used to be?
Maybe you agree, both are true?
Ok, so we traded a good one-trick pony (speedy deep-ball threat that really doesn't contribute to the possession game, and is not Brees' primary target), for a low 1st rd pick, and still managed to turn that into the top OT prospect in the draft.
We did that while keeping the best hands/route guy (Snead) who might be Brees' go-to guy, and another strong hands guy with big play potential who seems to be turning into Brees' new go-to guy (Thomas).
Along with upgrading the line, we also changed the RB combo from Ingram/Hightower to Peterson/Ingram.
It seems very much that there is a change in philosophy, we're trying to cut back on the 4 play, 1:30 drives, and aiming for longer, more methodical, time-consuming drives. We can do that, because out of all the QBs in the NFL, Brees is probably the #1 at taking what the defense gives, instead of keying on a certain player.
Doing this would make Cook a luxury, less valuable than another possible starting lineman. It would also ease the pressure on the defense, because they won't have to trot right back out there, 2 minutes after they get off the field, every time.
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