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re: Time for Sean P to go
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:58 pm to htran90
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:58 pm to htran90
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it was supposed to be 295, but typing errors happen. My math is right still 295/11 = 26.8
Fair enough. But you still posted incorrect math the first time.
I gave "about 25%" as much leeway as you guys are giving "elite"
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
25% is top 8 coaches, that is a lot.
What is elite to you, you never answered that.
If elite QBs are 5, I would put elite coaches the same since most coaches are tied to their QBs (Brady-Belichick, Payton-Brees, and McCarthy-Rodgers).
What is elite to you, you never answered that.
If elite QBs are 5, I would put elite coaches the same since most coaches are tied to their QBs (Brady-Belichick, Payton-Brees, and McCarthy-Rodgers).
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:04 pm to htran90
I don't know exactly but I know it's south of nearly 20%. The only coach I would currently call elite is Belichick.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
You still haven't said where you place Sean Payton. What is his ranking?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
I think they know what to address in the offseason and they'll get it done.
Like draft more cornerbacks...oh wait.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:08 pm to lsuhunt555
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Like draft more cornerbacks...oh wait.
Honestly, we shouldn't draft any corners IMO. We're terrible at it. Go FA for the #2.
Cut Jahri and Grubbs, and use that money on the defense. Draft guards. It is the easiest position to learn in the NFL
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:09 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Too much math. And yes this thread did go on too long.
But he does have a point, SP is done and you won't see the saints win a playoff game in the next 3 years. It was kind of cute when they could not win on the road. Now they just can't win
Later
But he does have a point, SP is done and you won't see the saints win a playoff game in the next 3 years. It was kind of cute when they could not win on the road. Now they just can't win
Later
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:09 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Well then if he isn't elite, he's in the group on the fence of elite/above average.
Harbaughs
Carroll
McCarthy
Payton
And you want to give that up for who? Andy Reid? Rex Ryan? Mike Smith? Riverboat Ron? Lovie? Marvin Lewis who is 0-5 in the playoffs in 11 years?
Go for a college coach? Because Chip Kelly was the only successful one in the past few years. We could end up with another Schiano.
Harbaughs
Carroll
McCarthy
Payton
And you want to give that up for who? Andy Reid? Rex Ryan? Mike Smith? Riverboat Ron? Lovie? Marvin Lewis who is 0-5 in the playoffs in 11 years?
Go for a college coach? Because Chip Kelly was the only successful one in the past few years. We could end up with another Schiano.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:11 pm to htran90
Pete Carrol seems to be doing alright.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:11 pm to TigerBait1127
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Honestly, we shouldn't draft any corners IMO. We're terrible at it. Go FA for the #2.
Yep. Look at the corners weve signed in FA in the Loomis/Payton era vs the ones weve drafted. It isnt even close.
Bottom line is, they need to address OL, DT, LBs in the draft and go sign 2-3 FA CBs.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:13 pm to TigerBait1127
I don't know exactly where I would rank him, probably somewhere in the top 10, 6-8 maybe based on his entire body of work, but this is the 2nd time in 8 years coaching that he has followed up a strong year with an abortion of a year
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:15 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
So you want to fire what you consider to be a top 10 NFL coach?
Seriously?
Seriously?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:16 pm to TigerBait1127
Like I said, he is trending down and I don't want to get to the bottom before we right the ship
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:23 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Like I said, he is trending down and I don't want to get to the bottom before we right the ship
No, you just want to completely overreact and throw the boat into reverse instead of steering around the iceberg
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:09 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Trending down is what Mike Smith is doing right now.
Being on a rollercoaster is normal in the NFL, it is a league where a high performing team can go to gutter and vise versa in 1 year (Carolina, Us, Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.)
McCarthy has been good as of late, but it isn't like anyone in that division does much lately. The same years that we went 11-5, atlanta was 13-3 and was 1st. Last year we went 11-5, Carolina was 12-4. Since McCarthy's 2010 season, only 1 other team has gone >=11 wins and that was the division leader 11-5 Chicago Bears in 2010.
Pete and Jim duke it out every year and they're both tied for 2nd right now to Arizona
John has only won the divison twice since 2008 and went 8-8 last year (3rd division).
Even those above average coaches have up and down years. we're in a down year.
Being on a rollercoaster is normal in the NFL, it is a league where a high performing team can go to gutter and vise versa in 1 year (Carolina, Us, Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.)
McCarthy has been good as of late, but it isn't like anyone in that division does much lately. The same years that we went 11-5, atlanta was 13-3 and was 1st. Last year we went 11-5, Carolina was 12-4. Since McCarthy's 2010 season, only 1 other team has gone >=11 wins and that was the division leader 11-5 Chicago Bears in 2010.
Pete and Jim duke it out every year and they're both tied for 2nd right now to Arizona
John has only won the divison twice since 2008 and went 8-8 last year (3rd division).
Even those above average coaches have up and down years. we're in a down year.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Who do you expect them to hire? Sean Payton is the best person to coach this team. It may be time to get someone else to evaluate talent for him.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:22 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Sometimes stupid just can't even describe someone, congrats.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:26 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Way to go a-hole.
Worst thread about anything at anytime anywhere for any reason.
Go frick yourself.
Worst thread about anything at anytime anywhere for any reason.
Go frick yourself.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:27 pm to geauxpurple
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It may be time to get someone else to evaluate talent for him.
Last year is looking pretty bad. The 2013 draft was absolutely solid.
1st - Kenny Vaccaro --> was great last year and showed that he has the skill. Not sure why he forgot how to tackle this year, but just 3 MTs last year
3rd - Armstead --> 1st round talent. One of the most athletic tackles in the league. Trending towards All-Pro level of play
3rd - Jenkins --> Has looked like a steal at times and terrible at times. When we can rotate him, he's solid
5th - Stills --> Absolute steal. Already exceeded expectations. Lets see if he makes the 3rd year jump in play that we see in the NFL from a lot of WRs
We shouldn't draft defense in the 1st 3 rounds IMO. Hell, maybe we shouldn't draft defense at all and just use our FA money for it
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:36 pm to TigerBait1127
Jenkins is still dealing with a pec injury and he's probably out of shape. He's not even close to 100%, so he can't create a push or hold his ground at all it seems.
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