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Through 3 games: our rookies vs others
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:17 pm
With the constant comparisons with Lattimore and White, lets take a look through 3 games with other players we selected. Just to move anthem things down and back to football.
We made out pretty well, some guys of course were obviously better (Hunt > Kamara), but I think we made out decently well 3 games in.
OT
Bolles: 67.8 PFF
Ramcyzk: 75.0 PFF
Robinson: 41.4 PFF
Free Safety:
Hooker: 82.7 PFF (9 tackles, 2 INTs, 2 PD)
Maye: 70.7 PFF (14 tackles)
Williams: 79.4 PFF (12 tackles, 1 INT, 1 PD)
Linebacker:
Riley: 63.7 PFF
Anzalone: 63.8 PFF
Beckwith: 88.7 PFF
Defensive End:
Bashem: 70.5 PFF
Hendrickson: 72.8 PFF
Lawson: 84.2 PFF
We made out pretty well, some guys of course were obviously better (Hunt > Kamara), but I think we made out decently well 3 games in.
OT
Bolles: 67.8 PFF
Ramcyzk: 75.0 PFF
Robinson: 41.4 PFF
Free Safety:
Hooker: 82.7 PFF (9 tackles, 2 INTs, 2 PD)
Maye: 70.7 PFF (14 tackles)
Williams: 79.4 PFF (12 tackles, 1 INT, 1 PD)
Linebacker:
Riley: 63.7 PFF
Anzalone: 63.8 PFF
Beckwith: 88.7 PFF
Defensive End:
Bashem: 70.5 PFF
Hendrickson: 72.8 PFF
Lawson: 84.2 PFF
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 6:19 pm
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:23 pm to htran90
I really wish we would have grabbed Beckwith or Lawson. Lawson on the other side of Jordan would be sweet.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:29 pm to htran90
I saw Anzalone’s score from PFF and was surprised. The kid seems to always be around the ball and affecting the play. His tackling has been pretty good too. Not sure why the grade is so bad.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:32 pm to Suntiger
It's not really a bad grade that anzalone has.
I think it means he's a bit below average of all playing linebackers.
I think it means he's a bit below average of all playing linebackers.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:33 pm to Suntiger
Coverage, which has been hit and miss.
I don't blame him so much for the Gronk td (though he did commit a no no and peek in the backfield at a horrible time), but there have been other blown coverages (mostly in Allen's shite zones).
I don't see him getting proper depth on many drops and that's part of why there are some gapping holes in those zones. Another reason Allen should stick to mostly man.
I don't blame him so much for the Gronk td (though he did commit a no no and peek in the backfield at a horrible time), but there have been other blown coverages (mostly in Allen's shite zones).
I don't see him getting proper depth on many drops and that's part of why there are some gapping holes in those zones. Another reason Allen should stick to mostly man.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:40 pm to bonethug0108
Do we have the talent to run man a lot? I believe Lattimore can handle it, but who else?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:43 pm to Hoodoo Man
Anzalone has been solid. Poor guy just had to match up with Gronk a few times in his second game. There should be some type of rating allowance for games vs gronk as a rookie.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:43 pm to bonethug0108
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Coverage, which has been hit and miss.
I don't blame him so much for the Gronk td (though he did commit a no no and peek in the backfield at a horrible time), but there have been other blown coverages (mostly in Allen's shite zones).
I don't see him getting proper depth on many drops and that's part of why there are some gapping holes in those zones. Another reason Allen should stick to mostly man.
He has all the tools to be very good. He just needs more experience, which he is getting.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:05 pm to htran90
Williams may be slightly behind Hooker but I think that the sky is the limit for him.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:06 pm to mark65mc
Also Hooker is just awesome so keeping up is awesome
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:07 pm to Chad504boy
I agree. That interception that Williams made was a thing of beauty.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:21 pm to CocoLoco
PJ, Moore, and Crawley are all man corners. Vaccaro is a man/box safety. Anzalone and Robertson are man LBs.
Right now the only truly good zone players we have are Williams (not PJ) and Klein, and you can play Williams in deep zone behind man.
We played man most of the Panther's game. The one td we gave up came on a drive in which we went all zone (I recommend anyone curious to go watch that drive and see why I get pissed at Allen so much).
Zone should be used as a mix up, not our base, and we should throw in some zone blitz now and then. Other than that, we should be playing mostly man.
Right now the only truly good zone players we have are Williams (not PJ) and Klein, and you can play Williams in deep zone behind man.
We played man most of the Panther's game. The one td we gave up came on a drive in which we went all zone (I recommend anyone curious to go watch that drive and see why I get pissed at Allen so much).
Zone should be used as a mix up, not our base, and we should throw in some zone blitz now and then. Other than that, we should be playing mostly man.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:39 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Also Hooker is just awesome so keeping up is awesome
he was considered a top 5, even top 10 pick. Indy were lucky he fell that far.
In comparison: Jamal Adams
84.5 PFF Rating
11 tackles, 2 PD, 2 STF
Seems like a really deep draft across the board to start the year.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:32 am to htran90
I remember constantly saying in the draft thread I wanted us to take Lawson. But nope. We passed on him a couple of times 
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:25 pm to htran90
quote:
Linebacker:
Beckwith: 88.7 PFF
fricking Payton. frick dat dude.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:27 pm to nola000
We're somewhat OK at LB but really could've used a guy like Lawson considering Cam is our only consistent pass rusher.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:49 am to Suntiger
Anzalone got owned quite embarrassingly by Gronk twice for touchdowns and then run over by Stewart the next week. But its Gronk and the kid is a rookie and hey, Williams was just as embarrased with that attempt of a tackle on Gronk. Once Anzalone hits the gym and gets stronger (without losing his speed), he could make a real impact.
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