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re: THOMAS MORSTEAD Scouting Reports, Notes, Updates
Posted on 4/26/09 at 4:30 pm to blueslover
Posted on 4/26/09 at 4:30 pm to blueslover
just for historical reference, recent years and rounds in which punters were selected-
2008- 6
2007- 4 4 7
2006- 6 7
2005- 3 6
2004- 3 6 7
2003- 5 6
2002- 4 6
2001- 4 5
2000- 5
1999- 4 6 7 7
again, not defending the pick but it isn't as if it is unheard of. NE just drafted a long snapper.
2008- 6
2007- 4 4 7
2006- 6 7
2005- 3 6
2004- 3 6 7
2003- 5 6
2002- 4 6
2001- 4 5
2000- 5
1999- 4 6 7 7
again, not defending the pick but it isn't as if it is unheard of. NE just drafted a long snapper.
This post was edited on 4/26/09 at 4:32 pm
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Posted on 4/26/09 at 4:32 pm to blueslover
so they drafted another kicker, hope they get this one right.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 4:35 pm to tubucoco
I dont like giving up so much for a punter, but think back to the nfc championship game and look at how good of a job chicagos punter did pinning us back when we were trying to stay in the game. compare his performance to our punter. if the guy pans out he will be well worth the pick.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 4:49 pm to diat150
Saints Coach Sean Payton said that the punter position was one the team had identified as a need going into the draft.
"He has a strong leg, we think the best leg in the draft," Payton said. "We think we've got a very good punter and the objective is to improve ourselves at that position. We think it's going to be a very good competition with Glenn (Pakulak)"
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the prominent word in all these picks is competition
"He has a strong leg, we think the best leg in the draft," Payton said. "We think we've got a very good punter and the objective is to improve ourselves at that position. We think it's going to be a very good competition with Glenn (Pakulak)"
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the prominent word in all these picks is competition
Posted on 4/26/09 at 7:55 pm to blueslover
bumpin this badass Super Bowl MVP up 
nola.com-
I just got a look at the comments and feedback on the Saints' decision to trade up into Round 5 and draft a punter. ... Wow. I guess I'm not surprised, but geez, this generated more interest than yesterday's first-round pick.
Calm down, folks. It's not like they passed up on Beanie Wells or Brian Cushing to get this guy. Of course, we were all a little stunned in the press room here, too, but I don't think they gave up too much to get him. And who knows? Maybe he'll pan out, and they can finally solve one of their nagging issues from the past three years.
Saints Coach Sean Payton said the punter position was listed under the team's "needs" on the grease board after the postseason evaluations. He credited veteran Glenn Pakulak for stepping in during midseason and performing well, but he said Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency.
He said the team looked hard at some free agent options, but the two best (Oakland's Shane Lechler and Atlanta's Michael Koenen) re-signed with their current teams. After that, they spent more time than usual evaluating the top draft options at punter, and SMU's Thomas Morstead was clearly the one they liked best.
nola.com-
I just got a look at the comments and feedback on the Saints' decision to trade up into Round 5 and draft a punter. ... Wow. I guess I'm not surprised, but geez, this generated more interest than yesterday's first-round pick.
Calm down, folks. It's not like they passed up on Beanie Wells or Brian Cushing to get this guy. Of course, we were all a little stunned in the press room here, too, but I don't think they gave up too much to get him. And who knows? Maybe he'll pan out, and they can finally solve one of their nagging issues from the past three years.
Saints Coach Sean Payton said the punter position was listed under the team's "needs" on the grease board after the postseason evaluations. He credited veteran Glenn Pakulak for stepping in during midseason and performing well, but he said Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency.
He said the team looked hard at some free agent options, but the two best (Oakland's Shane Lechler and Atlanta's Michael Koenen) re-signed with their current teams. After that, they spent more time than usual evaluating the top draft options at punter, and SMU's Thomas Morstead was clearly the one they liked best.
This post was edited on 4/26/09 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/26/09 at 8:44 pm to blueslover
I like the move. He could be the silent addition to our defense. But blues, you're risking carpal tunnel syndrome to the shallow, narrow-minded, experts here who know more about Saints football and what we shoulda, coulda, woulda done with that pick.
I like the way some dumb fricks (pelican, and that meckle1 whatever) grade the Saints draft an F and we haven't played a down yet.
Man, sometimes my left hand fights my right hand against clicking on Saints Talk.
I like the way some dumb fricks (pelican, and that meckle1 whatever) grade the Saints draft an F and we haven't played a down yet.
Man, sometimes my left hand fights my right hand against clicking on Saints Talk.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 8:54 pm to blueslover
Good going Morstead.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 9:06 pm to horndog
Duncan T-P:
One word: Wow! I've seen a lot of crazy picks by the Saints over the years but this one ranks right up there. I guess I can understand taking the kid. He was the second-rated punter in the draft. But trading up for him seems a little much, especially one day after General Manager Mickey Loomis said the club's goal was to keep all of its 2010 picks protected for next year. Supposedly the Saints wanted to jump in fron to the Indianapolis Colts, who had Mostead targeted in the lower rounds. But still, we're not exactly talking about the second coming of Shane Lechler here. Morstead was only honorable mention in Conference USA, for goodness sakes. So either CUSA is the cradle of college punters or the Saints reached for Morstead. I'm going with the latter. Besides, I thought Glenn Pakulak did a solid job last season and should only improve with a full offseason under his belt so I'm not sure the need for more punting compeition justified the decision to trade up for Morstead. Grade: F.
One word: Wow! I've seen a lot of crazy picks by the Saints over the years but this one ranks right up there. I guess I can understand taking the kid. He was the second-rated punter in the draft. But trading up for him seems a little much, especially one day after General Manager Mickey Loomis said the club's goal was to keep all of its 2010 picks protected for next year. Supposedly the Saints wanted to jump in fron to the Indianapolis Colts, who had Mostead targeted in the lower rounds. But still, we're not exactly talking about the second coming of Shane Lechler here. Morstead was only honorable mention in Conference USA, for goodness sakes. So either CUSA is the cradle of college punters or the Saints reached for Morstead. I'm going with the latter. Besides, I thought Glenn Pakulak did a solid job last season and should only improve with a full offseason under his belt so I'm not sure the need for more punting compeition justified the decision to trade up for Morstead. Grade: F.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 8:18 am to blueslover
more from Payton-
Payton spoke highly of current punter Glenn Pakulak but said even Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency, and he wanted to bring in some competition at a position that has nagged the Saints for the past three years.
He was actually the second punter off the board Sunday. The Bengals drafted local product Kevin Huber out of the University of Cincinnati earlier in the fifth round.
Payton said Morstead was the only punter the Saints were interested in drafting, and they believed another team would take him by the sixth round, so they felt they needed to move up to get him.
The Saints traded away next year's fifth-round pick, plus a seventh-rounder in this year's draft (No. 222 overall) to get the fifth-round pick from Philadelphia (No. 164 overall).
"That gives you an idea of our feelings about getting him, " said Payton, who felt the price for the trade was a good value. Normally, he said, a fifth-round pick would cost a future fourth-rounder.
Payton stressed, however, that, "We're not handing this job over to this college kid."
"The selection is the business transaction in which you obtain the talent, " Payton said. "We tell the players this once they're here, how we acquired the player should not have any bearing in terms of what we see, what you guys see and what all of us see in regards to who should play."
The Saints have proved that point repeatedly in recent years. Last year, kicker Taylor Mehlhaff didn't win a job despite being drafted in the sixth round. Two years ago, the Saints traded up to get tailback Antonio Pittman in the fourth round, but he lost a roster spot to undrafted free agent Pierre Thomas. And three years ago, seventh-round receiver Marques Colston beat out sixth-rounder Mike Hass.
Payton spoke highly of current punter Glenn Pakulak but said even Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency, and he wanted to bring in some competition at a position that has nagged the Saints for the past three years.
He was actually the second punter off the board Sunday. The Bengals drafted local product Kevin Huber out of the University of Cincinnati earlier in the fifth round.
Payton said Morstead was the only punter the Saints were interested in drafting, and they believed another team would take him by the sixth round, so they felt they needed to move up to get him.
The Saints traded away next year's fifth-round pick, plus a seventh-rounder in this year's draft (No. 222 overall) to get the fifth-round pick from Philadelphia (No. 164 overall).
"That gives you an idea of our feelings about getting him, " said Payton, who felt the price for the trade was a good value. Normally, he said, a fifth-round pick would cost a future fourth-rounder.
Payton stressed, however, that, "We're not handing this job over to this college kid."
"The selection is the business transaction in which you obtain the talent, " Payton said. "We tell the players this once they're here, how we acquired the player should not have any bearing in terms of what we see, what you guys see and what all of us see in regards to who should play."
The Saints have proved that point repeatedly in recent years. Last year, kicker Taylor Mehlhaff didn't win a job despite being drafted in the sixth round. Two years ago, the Saints traded up to get tailback Antonio Pittman in the fourth round, but he lost a roster spot to undrafted free agent Pierre Thomas. And three years ago, seventh-round receiver Marques Colston beat out sixth-rounder Mike Hass.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 8:22 am to blueslover
quote:
Payton spoke highly of current punter Glenn Pakulak but said even Pakulak would admit that he needs to work on his consistency, and he wanted to bring in some competition at a position that has nagged the Saints for the past three years.
He was actually the second punter off the board Sunday. The Bengals drafted local product Kevin Huber out of the University of Cincinnati earlier in the fifth round.
Payton said Morstead was the only punter the Saints were interested in drafting, and they believed another team would take him by the sixth round, so they felt they needed to move up to get him.
The Saints traded away next year's fifth-round pick, plus a seventh-rounder in this year's draft (No. 222 overall) to get the fifth-round pick from Philadelphia (No. 164 overall).
"That gives you an idea of our feelings about getting him, " said Payton, who felt the price for the trade was a good value. Normally, he said, a fifth-round pick would cost a future fourth-rounder.
Payton stressed, however, that, "We're not handing this job over to this college kid."
"The selection is the business transaction in which you obtain the talent, " Payton said. "We tell the players this once they're here, how we acquired the player should not have any bearing in terms of what we see, what you guys see and what all of us see in regards to who should play."
The Saints have proved that point repeatedly in recent years. Last year, kicker Taylor Mehlhaff didn't win a job despite being drafted in the sixth round. Two years ago, the Saints traded up to get tailback Antonio Pittman in the fourth round, but he lost a roster spot to undrafted free agent Pierre Thomas. And three years ago, seventh-round receiver Marques Colston beat out sixth-rounder Mike Hass.
I agree with the logic. Great post Blue.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 8:31 am to Fgiord
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I DON'T CARE
There should be a law against confusing geeks with the facts.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 9:07 am to beauchristopher
doesn't anyone remember our special teams sucking for most of the year?...are ya'll really sold on Pakulak?....if Morstead kicks the hell out of the ball this year for us, i think fans will stop complaining....i just think Payton and Loomis are finally paying attention to detail and looking out for our the kicking game too....i thought Pakulak, for the most part, was decent but now our punting game can become a strength rather than us getting by with open auditions during the season....i also like the fact that we nabbed a linebacker than had a faster 40 time than Knowshon Moreno at the combine and we picked a safety that runs a 4.51 which is fast for that position....
Posted on 4/27/09 at 10:27 am to tigersnsaints
Its a punter...not a LB, not an OL, but a p-u-n-t-e-r. Some folks have their mouths wrapped around SP's dick so hard that their homerism won't let them see past the fact this move sucked.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 10:28 am to RelocatedPelican
You don't like the move. WE GET IT.
Most of us don't like the move either, but we'll wait to see how this shakes out before calling for Payton's head.
Most of us don't like the move either, but we'll wait to see how this shakes out before calling for Payton's head.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 10:35 am to RelocatedPelican
i wasn't the happiest at first with the pick but i just think if Morstead becomes a top 5 punter in the NFL(which i'm sure Payton and Loomis think he will) then the pick will be well worth it...gotta look at the positive side of picks sometimes....i know everybody wanted a running back but punter, also a very important position not to be ignored, seriously needed to be addressed.....why not get the best punter in the freakin draft rather than the 15-20th best running back....but i guess since i agree with the selection i have Payton's penis in my mouth....grow up RelocatedPelican and try not to spread anymore of your negative charm upon all of us....
Posted on 4/27/09 at 10:40 am to tigersnsaints
The fact of the matter is that all of these picks are Saints now. If you are a fan, you will be rooting for these guys to shine and not care who is beating who at CB and who is playing FS and what round the Punter was taken in. Just trust the coaching staff to teach them and root for your team. What's the worst that could happen...8-8...7-9? You should be used to it. Anything else is lagniappe.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 11:18 am to SaintEB
bump for those of you who missed the fun
Posted on 4/27/09 at 11:33 am to blueslover
quote:
Duncan T-P:
One word: Wow! I've seen a lot of crazy picks by the Saints over the years but this one ranks right up there. I guess I can understand taking the kid. He was the second-rated punter in the draft. But trading up for him seems a little much, especially one day after General Manager Mickey Loomis said the club's goal was to keep all of its 2010 picks protected for next year. Supposedly the Saints wanted to jump in fron to the Indianapolis Colts, who had Mostead targeted in the lower rounds. But still, we're not exactly talking about the second coming of Shane Lechler here. Morstead was only honorable mention in Conference USA, for goodness sakes. So either CUSA is the cradle of college punters or the Saints reached for Morstead. I'm going with the latter. Besides, I thought Glenn Pakulak did a solid job last season and should only improve with a full offseason under his belt so I'm not sure the need for more punting compeition justified the decision to trade up for Morstead. Grade: F.
I guess this is my take on it. We just drafted a punter two years ago and now we trade up to get another one. That's like taking a kicker in the first round. Who would do that.
With the limited number of picks, this wasn't the draft to gamble so I hope they know what they are doing and this kid turns out great. It's just kind of befuzziling is all.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 11:36 am to SNAPPERHEAD
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We have far greater needs
I don't know if this kid is good or not, I felt Arrington was a waste at the time, but based on his training camp legend, he was well worth a 6 and a 7. Football truly is a game of field position so I'm ok with it if this kid is legit and has great hang time, distance, and the ability to pin the opponents deep, which all his college stats says he does. If he turns out to be the next Taylor Melhaff then Payton will probably be crucified the next time he drafts a kicker.
Posted on 4/27/09 at 11:43 am to TigerinATL
not a defender of the pick but it didn't cost much. until you feel set with your ST play ya gotta keep trying. Melhofferman was a kicker too, not a punter. If we are set there for 5+ years now then hooah. They had word the Colts were gonna take him, so did what it took. The Colts did draft a punter after that btw.
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