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re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise.

Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:50 pm to
This thread.... Yikes.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:53 pm to
Yes, this FO, these coaches and some of these players have done some wonderful things since 2005. I can give them props for what they've done well, and at the same time, identify what they have failed to do well.

In what area of franchise building have they failed? Defense.

How do you overcome a historical record of losing? Sustained excellence.

How do you build sustained excellence? Stop fricking up for years in building your D roster.
Posted by Aintsaloser
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:53 pm to
world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:57 pm to
That WAS a poorly run franchise for decades.

I expect excellence. What the FO and HC have done for the past five years in building the D cannot be called "excellence." I'll bet they agree.

Let's watch them fix it.

. . . and again, all of the name calling and bashing . . . it affects me not at all. I expect fans to react in that manner.

I'm simply being objective, critical and vocal in my expectations that NFL professionals produce excellence in all phases of the game ON A SUSTAINED AND CONTINUOUS BASIS.

EXCELLENCE is the standard. If there is failure to attain excellence, then understand why failure occurred, and take measures to correct the deficiencies so that EXCELLENCE can be attained.

But, make no mistake: anything less than Excellence requires improvement.

Excellence is the standard. Accept no substitutes.
This post was edited on 12/30/12 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.

That's the logical conclusion this awful thread has taken.
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:38 pm to
Man you want to get rid of brees I know you can't be serious
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.


Man, the admins need to invest in some "tard be gone" especially on Sunday afternoons in the fall & winter.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:45 pm to
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Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:32 am to
Sir.

The Standard is Excellence. Excuses? No, Sir. Save them for a child who fails. Children need excuses.

Professionals don't need excuses because excuses are merely a nice explanation for why you failed to attain Excellence.

Accept no substitute for Excellence. Excellence in all phases of the game at all times. This is the Standard.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:45 am to
You keep talking about the HC
the same HC we haven't had since last March and won't have until next march

He hired spags, change takes time
The fact they went 7-9 without a HC is amazing
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:48 am to
This is a bad thread
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:19 am to
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Uh, we, Cleveland, have 8 titles. Thanks for the mention though.



I specifically said NFL titles. The Browns' AAFL titles are not recognized by the NFL.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:30 am to
quote:

'm talking about a franchise that can sustain a solid decade of excellence. THAT is what a superior NFL franchise does.

When the Saints do that...then blah blah blah


So our record since 2006 69-43
Saints made playoffs 4 of the 6 years CSP was on sideline.
3 Div champ
2 NFC champ app
1 SB title.
Your a troll or a complete idiot if this does not please you.

Join the cowboy fan base. They like you already

quote:

Accept no substitute for Excellence. Excellence in all phases of the game at all times. This is the Standard.


Using this I conclude your thread comes up short.



This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 10:32 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Using this I conclude your thread comes up short.


If you believe that the Saints currently meet the Standard of Excellence, then, I'm happy for you.

I don't think that Coach Payton would agree with you, nor is he as satisfied as are you.

Excellence. Accept no substitutes. Every season. Every game. Every down.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:56 am to
quote:

If you believe that the Saints currently meet the


Good God man we sucked this year in many phases of the game. You think you just discovered this? Get over your self.

But to say this is a bad/medocre org. is one of the most idiotic things I will ever read here. Its like a Rex poli thread.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 11:56 am to


The truth hurts
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:37 pm to
WTF!

Most great teams have a great QB and HC and a lot of teams have neither. Be grateful you idiot.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48286 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 2:03 pm to
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Be grateful you idiot.


I'm happy for you that you are grateful. I am also grateful.

However, the Standard is not "Gratefulness", or, the state of being grateful.

Saints fans were grateful in 1967. Today, the Standard is Excellence.

Accept no substitutes.

Every decade. Every season. Every game. Every down.

Excellence.
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 2:05 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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64288 posts
Posted on 12/31/12 at 3:49 pm to
Then you will be forever disapointed.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Then you will be forever disapointed.


You will not be disappointed "forever" when you have but one Standard, and you accept nothing less than attainment of the Standard.

Only losers talk like you. LOSERS. Just like those who were half-stepping and dogging it are Losers, and are soon to be cleaning out their lockers.
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 4:12 pm
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