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re: There's absolutely no Logic to Not extend Drew
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:22 pm to BestStop
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:22 pm to BestStop
quote:
This team will never be anything until we have a formidable Offensive Line again. Just a decent QB works with a solid OL.
You'll never have a D until we can get quality guys that we can pay.
Sorry Drew huggers but if you know football you know what I'm saying.
The Broncos have the best defense in football, yet have actually spent more cap money on Peyton than we have on Brees
You're the one who doesn't know shite here
We've had no problem paying players, we just payed the wrong ones. Byrd, Junior, Cam, Lewis, Browner, Lofton, Junior, etc have all received good contracts since 2012
This post was edited on 12/27/15 at 6:03 pm
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Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:34 pm to TigerBait1127
^^^^^ this
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:37 pm to TigerBait1127
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We've had no problem paying players, we just payed the wrong ones. Byrd, Junior, Cam, Lewis, Browner, Lofton, Junior, etc have all received good contracts since 2012
This.
People blaming Drew's contract don't know anything about football or the value of a franchise QB, or even a regular, starting QB.
Hell, Miami is paying whathisface damn near the same thing.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:42 pm to BestStop
But he didn't. Ask the browns about their long list of "coulda" QB's.
Look there are outliers in QB's too. But look at the teams who make the playoffs and win the SB. They mostly all have great QB play.
Look there are outliers in QB's too. But look at the teams who make the playoffs and win the SB. They mostly all have great QB play.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:43 pm to VetteGuy
I'll bet not a single one of you poo-poo'd the idea of signing Byrd, Junior, Cam, Lewis, Browner, Lofton, Junior, etc. to their contracts.
I recall many of you saying we were going to have the best D backfield in the NFL
I recall many of you saying we were going to have the best D backfield in the NFL
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:48 pm to BestStop
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I recall many of you saying we were going to have the best D backfield in the NFL
Not me, you don't. I've been suspect of this D since preseason.
quote:I thought he would be good.
Byrd
quote:Didn't really get that one.
Junior
quote:Paid market-correct for him.
Cam
quote:Wasn't really sold on him, but had no clue he would be this horrible.
Browner
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:55 pm to BestStop
quote:
Just a decent QB works with a solid OL.
The fact that you said that proves you don't get it.
Look, people are paying huge money for just plain-Jane starting QBs.
Everyone on the planet knows that franchise QBs can singularly win games, even with gaping holes everywhere else. Without Brees this team doesn't win 6 games total over the past two seasons.
With a franchise QB, and an average everything else, you can win playoff games and Super Bowls. Giants and Ravens are the most recent examples.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:58 pm to BestStop
Are we leaving the QB's and heading to everyone else?
Cause ST is the right place to discuss them.
Cause ST is the right place to discuss them.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:59 pm to VetteGuy
quote:
The fact that you said that proves you don't get it. Look, people are paying huge money for just plain-Jane starting QBs. Everyone on the planet knows that franchise QBs can singularly win games, even with gaping holes everywhere else. Without Brees this team doesn't win 6 games total over the past two seasons. With a franchise QB, and an average everything else, you can win playoff games and Super Bowls. Giants and Ravens are the most recent examples.
Now re-read your post, Einstein. You just made the case very clear that paying an elite QB an elite salary does not equate to playoffs.
Bravo!
This post was edited on 12/27/15 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:07 pm to BestStop
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Giants and Ravens are the most recent examples.
No, man.
Both of those teams recently won SB's with very average teams (although Ravens D was still pretty good).
My point is that (and I'm not trying to be a dick) is take a look at what just an average QB is getting today. It will make Drew's deal look reasonable.
To win consistently and compete for championships, any team will grab a franchise QB and pay market rates.
Now, paying a D-lineman $100M is flat-out stupid.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:09 pm to VetteGuy
Give drew a 2 yr extension/ 45 million dollar deal, hopefully can push a few dollars next year back.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:12 pm to Chad504boy
Restructuring is a must but extend him nonetheless.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:12 pm to Chad504boy
Drew is scheduled to count against the cap nest more than any player in history. you can be certain he'll take a cut or he won't be around.
VetteGuy - The Ravens finally won today - with Ryan Mallet! Something Flacco couldn't do this year.
VetteGuy - The Ravens finally won today - with Ryan Mallet! Something Flacco couldn't do this year.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:14 pm to BestStop
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Drew is scheduled to count against the cap nest more than any player in history. you can be certain he'll take a cut or he won't be around.
U do realize that this is only going to keep being a common occurrence right, shite ain't getting cheaper and Drew is still unarguably a top 5 qb
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:23 pm to Chad504boy
just sign brees to another 100 million 5 year contract if if is so important to the team
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:32 pm to td33simplythebest
That would be fine
But how much is guaranteed?
But how much is guaranteed?
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:40 pm to goatmilker
A 3 yr extension w 3rd year as optional to spread cap hits is fine too. That'd be 4 years locked up for
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:49 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Can players refuse an extension? The money next year y'all owe him is what was promised and just kept getting pushed back. If the extension was like another 2 years for a total of 50 million (now 3 year contract), wouldn't it be kind of like he is agreeing to just play an extra 2 years for only 20 million more than he is already promised? He could make more elsewhere.
Not trolling, it's a legitimate question I have wondered. My apologies if it's a dumb question.
You don't know how any of it works obviously.
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