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Should Ellerbe be kept next season?
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:20 am
He's always injured but the defense plays sooo much better when ever he's in. Cutting him in the offseason saves $2.5M but I think he's worth keeping around.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:21 am to Tingle
Yes, but draft Zach Cunningham in the first and sign a free agent linebacker as well
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:33 am to NamariTiger
I'd love to get Cunningham but I don't want Vitt ruining him.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:33 am to Tingle
No. You can't rely on him for a full season
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:50 am to Tingle
Isn't he on a pretty cap friendly deal? If so, yes. If not, try to restructure based on injury history.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:50 am to Tingle
Absolutely.
Have to hope for the best with health.
Conversations a while back were similar for Gronk when he had like 27 injuries in a row and he has now played like 4 straight fully healthy seasons and is the best TE in history. Obviously not the case for Ellerbe but the dude can play
Have to hope for the best with health.
Conversations a while back were similar for Gronk when he had like 27 injuries in a row and he has now played like 4 straight fully healthy seasons and is the best TE in history. Obviously not the case for Ellerbe but the dude can play
Posted on 11/19/16 at 10:02 am to Tingle
Ellerbe: 3.2mil cap hit (2.5mil annual)
Robertson/Stupar: 1.8mil cap hit (1.67mil annual)
If the truth of Anthony being really injured is true, than you're literally only allowing 8mil cap hit on 4 guys. That is not bad at all.
Hope for the best and if he can somehow get 8-10 games out of him that would be phenomenal for his cost. It isn't like we're paying him 8-10mil and if you look at FA there isn't much quality top end, just 'potential guys' like stupar/robertson. I rtaher keep Ellerbe and gamble than that
Robertson/Stupar: 1.8mil cap hit (1.67mil annual)
If the truth of Anthony being really injured is true, than you're literally only allowing 8mil cap hit on 4 guys. That is not bad at all.
Hope for the best and if he can somehow get 8-10 games out of him that would be phenomenal for his cost. It isn't like we're paying him 8-10mil and if you look at FA there isn't much quality top end, just 'potential guys' like stupar/robertson. I rtaher keep Ellerbe and gamble than that
Posted on 11/19/16 at 10:05 am to Tingle
Malcolm smith is about to be a free agent.
Boy could you imagine a linebacker group consisting of
Ellerbe, Smith, Robertson, Cunningham, Stupar, Mauti, Anthony maybe
Boy could you imagine a linebacker group consisting of
Ellerbe, Smith, Robertson, Cunningham, Stupar, Mauti, Anthony maybe
Posted on 11/19/16 at 10:24 am to Tingle
Yes, but the Saints need to make sure to have other linebackers ready to step up for when he misses 12/16 games
Posted on 11/19/16 at 10:32 am to LSUZombie
when healthy he plays at an incredibly high LB level. He was fantastic last Thursday.
For his price tag which isnt high and his upside/overall production when he plays I would keep him. I would draft a LB early...but I would keep him.
He is not breaking our bank and is a valuable piece to have.
With Ellerbe, Robertson, Stupar and hopefully Anthony we already have a capable LB corps...just add a 1st-3rd rounder/priority FA to the mix and profit.
For his price tag which isnt high and his upside/overall production when he plays I would keep him. I would draft a LB early...but I would keep him.
He is not breaking our bank and is a valuable piece to have.
With Ellerbe, Robertson, Stupar and hopefully Anthony we already have a capable LB corps...just add a 1st-3rd rounder/priority FA to the mix and profit.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:18 am to partywiththelombardi
I don't trust the front office to pick up a free agent or draft a good linebacker. Ellerbe has shown he can be an impact player in this defense. Gotta keep him
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:37 am to Tingle
Have we given up on Anthony at this point? I can't believe it after last season.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:58 am to Rand AlThor
quote:
Conversations a while back were similar for Gronk when he had like 27 injuries in a row and he has now played like 4 straight fully healthy seasons and is the best TE in history. Obviously not the case for Ellerbe but the dude can play
gronk is missing his 5th game this season due to injury...the one fuking year i snag him in fantasy SMH
Posted on 11/19/16 at 12:14 pm to Tingle
You don't throw away this kind of productivity on the chance he might get injured. In a violent sport like football inevitably injuries are a way of life. Linebackers and running backs tend to be involved in the most violent collisions. I guess the nature of the position. James Laurinaitis didn't miss a game at St. Louis , comes here and hardly sees the field. Difference in aggressive style or a crap shoot?
Posted on 11/19/16 at 1:22 pm to Tingle
you ask this:
but then say this:
we are too devoid of talent at pretty much every spot on the field, and you want to keep around a LB that is hardly ever available???
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Should Ellerbe be kept next season?
but then say this:
quote:
He's always injured
we are too devoid of talent at pretty much every spot on the field, and you want to keep around a LB that is hardly ever available???
Posted on 11/19/16 at 2:28 pm to BigDawg0420
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I don't trust the front office to pick up a free agent
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Ellerbe has shown he can be an impact player
Trade but still.
Plus Fujita, Vilma (trade but still a pick up) Robertson, Mauti, and Stupar. Shanle was okay for a while until Fujita left.
Casillas was an UDFA with promise that has shown up elsewhere. Dunbar too.
Now the drafting, if Anthony doesn't show up then yeah.
This post was edited on 11/19/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/19/16 at 3:58 pm to bonethug0108
as long as vitt is the coach it wont matter either way.
Posted on 11/19/16 at 3:58 pm to Tingle
It's a no brainer to keep him imo. Robertson, Ellerbe, Stupar, Mauti, & Anthony should be on the team next year if all goes to plan. We need 1 more LB to complete the group...high draft pick or F.A. acquisition.
We could double up on LB(draft a guy & sign a F.A.), but I think OG & DE(Kruger is serious doo doo, Tapp is about to retire, & Kikaha/Edebali are pass rushers until proven otherwise) are the positions we should be doubling up on. Maybe LB as well if we have the money/draft picks to do so. Vitt hasn't given me a reason to trust him in developing a rookie, but he's given me plenty of reasons on why I shouldn't trust him.
We could double up on LB(draft a guy & sign a F.A.), but I think OG & DE(Kruger is serious doo doo, Tapp is about to retire, & Kikaha/Edebali are pass rushers until proven otherwise) are the positions we should be doubling up on. Maybe LB as well if we have the money/draft picks to do so. Vitt hasn't given me a reason to trust him in developing a rookie, but he's given me plenty of reasons on why I shouldn't trust him.
This post was edited on 11/19/16 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 11/19/16 at 5:12 pm to GMoney2600
If we get rid of Ellerbe then I have no faith the front office knows what they're doing
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