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re: Saints trade Akiem Hicks for TE Michael Hoomanawanui

Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71620 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

I'm just saying, compare this with other drafts.
He's a fifth round rookie playing in every game.

To be fair we also have 3 UDFA and a 6th rd rookie getting run on the D-line. Since we just said frick it at some positions this season it skews things.
Posted by Peliclown
Member since Nov 2013
2480 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:12 am to
If they would just pay me half of mickey's salary, I'd turn this team into a superbowl contender.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:58 am to
It's about time we see the real Sean Payton. Will the real Sean Payton please stand up , please stand up. If he don't produce cut him loose. Don't stop with that load of shite. I'm the Sean Payton the real Sean Payton...
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3396 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:47 am to
Honestly, what happened to Hicks in year 2 and 3. He looked like the second coming of Warren Sapp in his first year. Then he disappeared.

If Hicks ends up playing lights out in NE, similar to what M Jenkins and Roman Harper did when they left, then it's obvious that the Saints have a tremendous coaching problem.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6906 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:07 am to
quote:

From all of the players selected in the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 drafts, the Saints have 6 players left on their roster.

2011 - Jordan, Ingram
2012-
2013- Vaccaro, Armstead, Jenkins
2014- Cooks


And that's how a top 5 QB's prime years get wasted.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65990 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:09 am to
Unless this guy is the next Jimmy Graham, this makes no sense at all.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:12 am to
3 games in and I never heard his name called or even knew if he was in the game at all.
Coaches bench the guy for a rookie.
Board is perplexed and at a loss as to why he is gone.

Seems the answer is there but some just don't want to see it.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65990 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:25 am to
quote:

Board is perplexed and at a loss as to why he is gone.


Not really. But, for a TE? This defense sucks so let's trade a defensive player for a TE?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:39 am to
quote:

This defense sucks so let's trade a defensive player for a TE?


0-3

The whole team sucks.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:14 am to
Ok, I'm just hearing this and don't want to go through 12 pages.

Why in the frick?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:21 am to
quote:

3 games in and I never heard his name called or even knew if he was in the game at all.
Coaches bench the guy for a rookie.
Board is perplexed and at a loss as to why he is gone.

Seems the answer is there but some just don't want to see it.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:30 am to
I don't really understand the trade, I'll be honest. I think the Saints giving up on Akiem Hicks says a lot about Rob Ryan than it does Hicks. I'm going to sound like the scum of the board when I say this, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hicks makes himself a nice career in New England.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:31 am to
I tend to think its not just his play but his attitude and commitment to the team at this point.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:34 am to
Which is strange, right? Why are we losing players for that reason? Is it the players or is it the coaches or is it both? I commend the Saints for taking out the trash if that's the case, but why so much trash lately?
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24573 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:37 am to
quote:

t I wouldn't be surprised if Hicks makes himself a nice career in New England.





quite possibly. sometimes talented but bad players do well on other teams. BillBell is the best coach in the league (and quite possibly the history of the game), and he can get the best out of players. Though he did fail at points with other players in the same boat, so it's not absolute.


quote:

I don't really understand the trade



here's some analysis to put it all into perspective:

quote:

Louis Riddick ?@LRiddickESPN 10h10 hours ago

Like the idea of DL Akiem Hicks and his size/long arms to #Patriots, but his tape this season is bad. Really bad. Not gonna fly with BB.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24573 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Which is strange, right? Why are we losing players for that reason? Is it the players or is it the coaches or is it both? I commend the Saints for taking out the trash if that's the case, but why so much trash lately?



Carl Nicks syndrome. Nicks fell in the draft for character reasons, and the Saints hit a homerun with drafting him. They have made it a mission to take talented guys that fell in the draft due to injury or character concerns, and it has bit them right back in the arse. Most bad character guys don't succeed, because they don't have the maturity or dedication required to maximize their talent. That is why this draft yielded the Kikahas, because the team has realized their mistakes and has focused on the exact opposite approach.
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:56 am to

It's been deleted since. But, frick Jimmy Graham. Dude probably wouldn't be in the league right now if he was drafted any other team but the Saints, and maybe a of handful others.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 8:58 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115871 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Not really. But, for a TE? This defense sucks so let's trade a defensive player for a TE?


The offense has been worst than the defense this year a lot of the time.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:46 am to
Defense has been doing everything they can possibly do to keep us in the game with the plethora of injuries and lack of a pass rush.

They have caused turnovers and kept games close for majority of the game, then the offense refuses to score.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11294 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 10:26 am to
Goodell screwed us and Paytons year off destroyed our team. I have to wonder if they all went insane.
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